HVAC Advice Needed to boost AC

EvlMunkee

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I need an HVAC guy or someone with HVAC experience to advise me on improving airflow to my room.
I have 2 cabs in my room. They are both totally stealth...they have no ducts or anything on the outside of the cabs since that is not a viable option for me. They can keep the temps within 8-10 degrees of the ambient temps in the room. The intakes are passive and they have small fans for exhaust. They are able to cool pretty well as they are designed but here is the problem. As they heat and expel hot air they heat up the room and therefore heat up the intake as well. I need to break that cycle by cooling this room better. The house is nice and cool in the 70F-72F range but the room can be 10 degrees warmer. This has always been a hot room so the first thing I did was to add an inline booster fan and vane switch w/ about a 465cfm free air rating. That helped a few degrees but I want about 5 more at least to be safe.
I am thinking of adding a manual damper into the system. This room is the first branch off of the trunk but it is also the longest. The register is also in an unvented gable which doesn't help.
Since this is the first branch, would it work to put a damper directly after this branch to damp flow to the colder rooms further down the trunk? I am thinking that it will help but I would like another opinion before I do it.
Another option of course is to add a window unit but I would have to pull from another circuit for more power. It would be no fun at all to have to fish a line down that wall since it is so hard to access...and it is an exterior wall too which means it is full of insulation.
Can anyone out there give me their opinion on this or have a better plan?
I would sure appreciate some help on this before I waste time on something that may be a losing cause.:peace:
 

EvlMunkee

Well-Known Member
I need an HVAC guy or someone with HVAC experience to advise me on improving airflow to my room.
I have 2 cabs in my room. They are both totally stealth...they have no ducts or anything on the outside of the cabs since that is not a viable option for me. They can keep the temps within 8-10 degrees of the ambient temps in the room. The intakes are passive and they have small fans for exhaust. They are able to cool pretty well as they are designed but here is the problem. As they heat and expel hot air they heat up the room and therefore heat up the intake as well. I need to break that cycle by cooling this room better. The house is nice and cool in the 70F-72F range but the room can be 10 degrees warmer. This has always been a hot room so the first thing I did was to add an inline booster fan and vane switch w/ about a 465cfm free air rating. That helped a few degrees but I want about 5 more at least to be safe.
I am thinking of adding a manual damper into the system. This room is the first branch off of the trunk but it is also the longest. The register is also in an unvented gable which doesn't help.
Since this is the first branch, would it work to put a damper directly after this branch to damp flow to the colder rooms further down the trunk? I am thinking that it will help but I would like another opinion before I do it.
Another option of course is to add a window unit but I would have to pull from another circuit for more power. It would be no fun at all to have to fish a line down that wall since it is so hard to access...and it is an exterior wall too which means it is full of insulation.
Can anyone out there give me their opinion on this or have a better plan?
I would sure appreciate some help on this before I waste time on something that may be a losing cause.:peace:
Maybe if I simplify the question I can get a response...

I am thinking of adding a manual damper into the system.
Since this is the first branch, would it work to put a damper directly after this branch to damp flow to the colder rooms further down the trunk?
How about it HVAC guys? Can anyone answer this?
 
Maybe if I simplify the question I can get a response...



How about it HVAC guys? Can anyone answer this?
You could always just dampen off some of the other registers in your other rooms, which will create more pressure in your duct system to force air into the room. ( essentially instead of dampening off at the trunk line you just do it at the register.
 

coast2coast

Active Member
My job requires a little hvac work and just from experience, your going to need to increase the exchange of air between your unit and this room, to do this Ide try and reduce the airflow to the other rooms by closing the dampers in the other rooms like buzzed said.
Next point I can give you is to get the hot air out and into the rest of the room, to reduce room temp and humidity in rooms Ive put a decently powerful fan pointing out the door to circulate the air out of the room faster, so not only are you bringing the cold air in faster, but your pushing the hot air out into the rest of your house, therefore aiding in the cooling.
 

sixstring2112

Well-Known Member
these guys got it for the easy fix with adjusting the room registers, but putting a damper in just after that first heat run will do the best job, come cold weather you will want those floor registers open. cover 2 or 3 registers for a couple hours and you can get a feel for what it would be like with more flow to the hot room.
 

EvlMunkee

Well-Known Member
these guys got it for the easy fix with adjusting the room registers, but putting a damper in just after that first heat run will do the best job, come cold weather you will want those floor registers open. cover 2 or 3 registers for a couple hours and you can get a feel for what it would be like with more flow to the hot room.
Thanks guys for the replies.
I have already tried method 1 ( closing down the other registers). It helped a little bit but not a lot. Also someone can come along and open them back up.
I am doing something now akin to method 2. I have a fan that is blowing cool air into the room from the rest of the house since the house is much cooler than this room. That works pretty good but I can not leave a fan at the doorway permanently.
That leaves method 3 which would be closer to the source and I could adjust the damper when I need to. It's not that I want the extra work here but I am trying to be stealthy.
I have also decided to order a small window unit and figure out a way to get power to it.
I think that between the trunk damper and the ac unit the problem will be well in hand. If not the only choice I have is to duct from the cab to the attic which defeats the stealthy appearance.
I really do appreciate you guys' input. You have helped me to make up my mind.
+rep to you all
 
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