How much cold will she handle ? Haha

PlainfieldPuff · Feb 3, 2021

Ive been lowering temps steady and Im at 70day , 60 nighttime . I’m doing 36 hours darkness before harvest like I always do, but this time I’m thinking about making the whole last dark period 50degrees. Soil is dried out as always before harvest. What do you guys think? I don’t think it could hurt for just 36 hours before harvest right ?

Wizzlebiz · Feb 3, 2021

I had an auto flower outdoors where day time temps were 55 and night time went to freezing. That was for 2 months. She still finished up just fine. She finished much slower than normal but finished all the same.

Point is you will be fine with what you are talking about.

Now the real question is why are you doing that on purpose?

ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ · Feb 3, 2021

Thats called fading and is popular to increase terpenes and encourage color change.
Most times though its not quite that cold, 72 during the day, and 62 at night.

Wizzlebiz · Feb 3, 2021

ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ said:
Thats called fading and is popular to increase terpenes and encourage color change.
Most times though its not quite that cold, 72 during the day, and 62 at night.

False color change is silly imo. But customers get tricked by that bs all the time. As for terp production to my knowledge that isn't proven. Basically bro science. But unproven doesn't necessarily mean wrong. So again to each his own.

maranibbana · Feb 3, 2021

Wizzlebiz said:
False color change is silly imo. But customers get tricked by that bs all the time. As for terp production to my knowledge that isn't proven. Basically bro science. But unproven doesn't necessarily mean wrong. So again to each his own.

not so much about the production of terps and more so about the preservation of them .

Wizzlebiz · Feb 3, 2021

maranibbana said:
not so much about the production of terps and more so about the preservation of them .

So as to not evaporate them off with light? I'm missing the science behind this I guess.

ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ · Feb 3, 2021

maranibbana said:
not so much about the production of terps and more so about the preservation of them .

Thank you for clarifying for me, I do not believe this is bro science.

ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ · Feb 3, 2021

Wizzlebiz said:
So as to not evaporate them off with light? I'm missing the science behind this I guess.

Its about the temperatures, terps are better preserved under 70

maranibbana · Feb 3, 2021

color change, cannabinoid preservation, and possibly a little loss in yield. but the colors are beautiful.

Wizzlebiz said:
So as to not evaporate them off with light? I'm missing the science behind this I guess.

the lower the temps the less evaporation/loss/degradation, of pretty much every cannabinoid.

Wizzlebiz · Feb 3, 2021

ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ said:
Thank you for clarifying for me, I do not believe this is bro science.

Is there proof of this in a actual study?

I'm not trying to call you out or say anyone is wrong.

The word believe generally means not factual. No offense. So I'm curious if there is a study proving this.

Wizzlebiz · Feb 3, 2021

maranibbana said:
color change, cannabinoid preservation, and possibly a little loss in yield. but the colors are beautiful.

the lower the temps the less evaporation/loss/degradation, of pretty much every cannabinoid.

Is there a study proving this? I'd love to read up on something I have misunderstood

maranibbana · Feb 3, 2021

Wizzlebiz said:
Is there proof of this in a actual study?

I'm not trying to call you out or say anyone is wrong.

The word believe generally means not factual. No offense. So I'm curious if there is a study proving this.

I suppose one could look up some studies on temps and terpene loss/degradation, one sec

ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ · Feb 3, 2021

Wizzlebiz said:
Is there a study proving this? I'd love to read up on something I have misunderstood

I will keep searching for something more on the nose, but here is a start.

Guide to Preserving Terpenes

Terpenes are beneficial to our health, but they are also extremely volatile. This volatility means extra care needs to be taken in cannabis and essential oil supply chains.

www.linkedin.com

You can imagine they go to the extream because this is for extraction of the terpenes, but it talks about how cool temperatures are needed to preserve them because they evaporate so quickly

Wizzlebiz · Feb 3, 2021

ÒÒlegilizeitÒÒ said:
I will keep searching for something more on the nose, but here is a start.

Guide to Preserving Terpenes

Terpenes are beneficial to our health, but they are also extremely volatile. This volatility means extra care needs to be taken in cannabis and essential oil supply chains.

www.linkedin.com

You can imagine they go to the extream because this is for extraction of the terpenes, but it talks about how cool temperatures are needed to preserve them because they evaporate so quickly

Thank you I will give it a thorough read and let you all know my thoughts.

I appreciate the article.

maranibbana · Feb 3, 2021

I cant find anything that tracks the effects of lets say a grow tent that hits 100*f etc...

but some places making claims

Wizzlebiz said:
Thank you I will give it a thorough read and let you all know my thoughts.

I appreciate the article.

do you know of science that proves that indoor grow temps don't effect terpene loss? I know ive seen some conflicting views on this topic and have heard some very convincing proof...

for instance how cold cure rosin was testing out at having less terpene content than oven tec rosin jam. ill have to find that, the fellows did lab testing and everything...

so again im not sure. bc ive never tested my plants, yet I like to take as many steps as I can hehe

Wizzlebiz · Feb 4, 2021

maranibbana said:
I cant find anything that tracks the effects of lets say a grow tent that hits 100*f etc...

but some places making claims

do you know of science that proves that indoor grow temps don't effect terpene loss? I know ive seen some conflicting views on this topic and have heard some very convincing proof...

for instance how cold cure rosin was testing out at having less terpene content than oven tec rosin jam. ill have to find that, the fellows did lab testing and everything...

so again im not sure. bc ive never tested my plants, yet I like to take as many steps as I can hehe

Yea I had stated that no proof doesn't mean it's wrong. It was my major disclaimer lol.

As with most things considered bro science there generally is no definitive proof for or against the topic. Sbit like this lives in the grey area of the industry.

Growers experiences have been going on for a long time.

Scientific approach is fairly new to cannabis which leaves alot to still be learned and confirmed.

I dont see an issue for dropping the temps for a day or 2 before harvest. But I guess the question remains why would a day or 2 or even 3 matter when the plant has been building terps for the entire flowering time?

If the reasoning is to preserve terps wouldn't it stand to reason that the 2 weeks before chop would cause a major issue for terps?

Just questions raised in my head.

Wizzlebiz · Feb 4, 2021

maranibbana said:
I cant find anything that tracks the effects of lets say a grow tent that hits 100*f etc...

but some places making claims

do you know of science that proves that indoor grow temps don't effect terpene loss? I know ive seen some conflicting views on this topic and have heard some very convincing proof...

for instance how cold cure rosin was testing out at having less terpene content than oven tec rosin jam. ill have to find that, the fellows did lab testing and everything...

so again im not sure. bc ive never tested my plants, yet I like to take as many steps as I can hehe

What I can say is due to my outdoor experience 115 degree weather for 2 weeks fucks up the taste of weed. That much I'm certain.

kovidkough · Feb 4, 2021

albeit a blog this is the only source I can find that suggests 20-26 C for increased terp production and never under 60F ever but skating on the edges without disrupting root zone temps.

The effect of cold on cannabis plants

In this post we show you which methods you can use to avoid the cold in an indoor cannabis crop. There are various modes to keep a stable temperature during the winter so you can choose the resolution that best suits to your indoor or greenhouse crop for personal use.

www.alchimiaweb.com

maranibbana · Feb 4, 2021

Wizzlebiz said:
Yea I had stated that no proof doesn't mean it's wrong. It was my major disclaimer lol.

As with most things considered bro science there generally is no definitive proof for or against the topic. Sbit like this lives in the grey area of the industry.

Growers experiences have been going on for a long time.

Scientific approach is fairly new to cannabis which leaves alot to still be learned and confirmed.

I dont see an issue for dropping the temps for a day or 2 before harvest. But I guess the question remains why would a day or 2 or even 3 matter when the plant has been building terps for the entire flowering time?

If the reasoning is to preserve terps wouldn't it stand to reason that the 2 weeks before chop would cause a major issue for terps?

Just questions raised in my head.

yes there is a lot that has to be waded through out there, lots of shit lol.

and I agree with you, im talking last 4 weeks, so for 2-3 days you wont get much on the aspect of preserving as, like you're thinking, she's out of the heat and lights lol.

PJ Diaz · Feb 4, 2021

Indoor Cannabis growing has deep foundations in bro science. Do you think they did studies in the 80’s about the HPS spectrum compared to MH? Naw they were grabbing street lights and growing weed.

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