How Do My 9 day old seedlings look?

OrganicC

New Member
Hello, first post here other than my intro.

Just wanted to know how my 9 day old seedlings look to you folks. It seems they are growing slow but I have heard they can have a growing spurt at any stage near 2 weeks.

Now by 9 days I mean from when I first saw them pop above the soil, from beginning of germination until they first popped above ground was 4 days.

Pre-watered 6x6x6 containers with pHed water of 6.5 that bubbled in a bucket using an airstone and airpump for 24-36 hours. When soil was almost completely dry at day 4 I watered with bubbled pHed water of about 6.5 again. At day 8 being I'm using SunshinePro mix at 40%-Perlite 40%-Vermiculite 10%-Worm Castings 10% and about a half a tbsp of dolomite powdered lime, which altogether really only contains enough nutes for 2-3 waterings, I bubbled and fed a 2 gallon EarthJuice mix of Grow 8ml, MicroBlast-3ml, Catalyst 1.5ml, humic acid 5ml and Rhizotonic 10ml. Mix brought straight tap water of 8pH down to 4.5, then it slowly rose to about 7.5 in 24 hours. Being I didn't know the sweetspot I added a bit of the EJ pH down which does not harm the organic mix to bring the pH down to around 6.5-7 then fed each plant about a quart each, the same amount of water as the two previous water only feeds.

Because I am using EJ and it's organic, and my mostly soilless mix has little nutes(I believe the worm castings are the only nute source which is only N 1-0-0) I'm OK feeding nutes this early. The amounts I gave are less than half of the "mild" recommendations.

Used 4-2' T5HOs from seed in soil to day 5 at 4" away, then my 400watt MH dimmed to 250 for day 6-present at 24" then down to 18" today. No heat issue whatsoever, UV issue maybe. Day temps are 74.5 night 66.5. Plenty of air circulation(no fans directly on seedlings) and a 6" inline exhaust pulling a carbon filter at about 200CFM for a 4x4x6 high room, 14"x10" filtered passive exhaust. This grow room inside a room is hospital clean and light cycles have been 24/0 day 1-5. 20/4 day 6-present. Plan to switch to 18/6 on day 15.

The only signs of anything bad are in the 3rd pic, the Sweet Tooth in the middle has a slight color change on the tips coming inward and those leaves look dry, the Sweet Tooth closest on this pic doesn't show these signs, has a little darker green leaves and curls slightly down.

Humidity has been low at 30-35%, for the last 3 days I've been using a cool-mist humidifier(Distilled water only) just outside the passive intake which has brought it to 40-45%.

At 9 days I know it's premature to really start worrying but I just want to get opinions. Peace
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OrganicC

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I'm going to throw up better pics of the good and bad Sweet Tooth after lights turn back on in 2 hours. Not sure how important darkness really is in veg, I've heard different opinions, but I'm going to wait. Same strain, same mix but different looks.
 

bkbbudz

New Member
Hmmm yup IMHO them are decent 9 day old seedlings. I did'nt really catch a lot of your post, my grows are a lot simpler. Just soil, perlite and a simple nute system.

But I wish you the best of luck, they are a healthy shade of green and don't appear to be stretching either.
 

OrganicC

New Member
Here are the 2 Sweet Tooth seedlings. Why the big difference in appearance when the strain, the soil, the nutes and the timeline are identical? Or am I just thinking too much?

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OrganicC

New Member
You can say that again. I've been waiting for two years to begin this hobby of sorts. From custom building my rooms inside a room, to bringing home a new accessory for that room, to the seed bank arrivals to that first mixing and feeding of nutes, to the growth cycles, it is not only exciting but there is this calming effect/affect it has on me, it's wonderful. If I would of started doing this years ago I'd be much healthier, both physically and mentally, today. I wish I could do this for a living instead of just a hobby, but I'm happier either way now.

I'm dumbfounded as to why this amazing annual plant is illegal in most parts of the world. It's a wonder of the world in my opinion.
 

OrganicC

New Member
UPDATE: All these seedlings have died. Nute lockup due to bad SunshinePro soil. After they all started showing signs of a problem, some had dark spots, some had brown spot, some dried up and fell off and all showed no growth by day 17(only the oval leaves, first set of single blades and tiny second set of single blades. Compared them to my friend's 2 week old seedlings and his were already starting their third and fourth set of leaves with no spots or discolorations. Decided to check the soil, found all pots had a soil pH of over 8. No idea how or why, SunshinePro is just peat, compost and bark. Only added perlite and vermiculite which are both neutral, vermiculite maybe raises to 7.5, but the original soil tested at 6.2. Waterings were between 6-7 so I'm not sure how the pH got so high.

Starting a new. Different soil(FFOF) and different nutes(foxfarm) will do a side by side comparison of EJ and FF in the FFOF soil. Going to let my local nursery have it when they open up in the spring, I had a feeling they knew this soil was bad. Also gnat infected. When I went to dump out pots in bag the gnats, not many but some, showed they were present.

Loss of time and about 100 in seeds, not to mention the 6 other seeds that had just popped and were put into this nasty soil before I knew it was bad, about a 75 loss there. Time is the worst loss though.
 
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