Honey... as a nute?
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Moebius
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why not chocolate spread?
Arcturon
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My point is there may be some beneficial unforeseen properties."
"The average pH of honey is 3.9, but can range from 3.4 to 6.1. Honey contains many kinds of acids, both organic and amino. However, the different types and their amounts vary considerably, depending on the type of honey. These acids may be aromatic or aliphatic (non-aromatic). The aliphatic acids contribute greatly to the flavor of honey by interacting with the flavors of other ingredients. Gluconic acid, for instance, is a flavor enhancer. The aromatic acids, such as malic acid, come mostly from the flowers, adding to the aroma and taste of the honey.
Honey can contain up to 18 of the 20 amino acids. However, amino acid content is almost negligible in honey, accounting for only 0.05–0.1% of the composition. The main acid is proline.
Organic acids comprise most of the acids in honey, accounting for 0.17–1.17% of the mixture. Gluconic acid is the most prevalent. Gluconic acid is formed by the actions of an enzyme called glucose oxidase. Other organic acids are minor, consisting of formic, acetic, butyric, citric, lactic, malic, pyroglutamic, propionic, valeric, capronic, palmitic, and succinic, among many othersAs an antimicrobial agent honey may have the potential for treating a variety of ailments. Antibacterial properties of honey are the result of the low water activity causing osmosis, chelation of free Iron, its slow release of hydrogen peroxide,[SUP][67][/SUP] high acidity,[SUP][68][/SUP] and the antibacterial activity of methylglyoxal.[SUP][69][/SUP]
' my source is wikipedia.
"The average pH of honey is 3.9, but can range from 3.4 to 6.1. Honey contains many kinds of acids, both organic and amino. However, the different types and their amounts vary considerably, depending on the type of honey. These acids may be aromatic or aliphatic (non-aromatic). The aliphatic acids contribute greatly to the flavor of honey by interacting with the flavors of other ingredients. Gluconic acid, for instance, is a flavor enhancer. The aromatic acids, such as malic acid, come mostly from the flowers, adding to the aroma and taste of the honey.
Honey can contain up to 18 of the 20 amino acids. However, amino acid content is almost negligible in honey, accounting for only 0.05–0.1% of the composition. The main acid is proline.
Organic acids comprise most of the acids in honey, accounting for 0.17–1.17% of the mixture. Gluconic acid is the most prevalent. Gluconic acid is formed by the actions of an enzyme called glucose oxidase. Other organic acids are minor, consisting of formic, acetic, butyric, citric, lactic, malic, pyroglutamic, propionic, valeric, capronic, palmitic, and succinic, among many othersAs an antimicrobial agent honey may have the potential for treating a variety of ailments. Antibacterial properties of honey are the result of the low water activity causing osmosis, chelation of free Iron, its slow release of hydrogen peroxide,[SUP][67][/SUP] high acidity,[SUP][68][/SUP] and the antibacterial activity of methylglyoxal.[SUP][69][/SUP]
' my source is wikipedia.
Arcturon
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Hehe I meant in the water solution!
mad dog bark
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honey is used as a carb feed and as a thing to use to help flavour in the flush. i have used it, it was ok
also if get the local unpasterised sort it helps with local airborn germs etc
also if get the local unpasterised sort it helps with local airborn germs etc
Arcturon
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Hell yeah dude, info appreciated! I'll add it to the flush.
Any other uses?
mad dog bark
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thats bout as far as ive read on that. into organic options myself and like try something different each time or grow
polyarcturus
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add it to the flush if you feel like wasting honey. the point of the flush it to remove nutes. the point of sugar is to feed microbes. adding sugar will keep the microbes alive longer thus feeding the plant longer. i flush with tap water only un pHed and only yill i see water come out the bottom and only once a week before harvest. this flush shit is too complicated. just feed plain water last 2 weeks, flush your plants if you want, but your wasting water and time.
maybe add sugar the last 2 weeks but not when you flush......
anyways should have waited in organics theres som smart folks over there who would have lead you in the right direction, next time dont get too impatient.
another note save some $ get either cornsyrup or molasses to start, honey is $$$$$
maybe add sugar the last 2 weeks but not when you flush......
anyways should have waited in organics theres som smart folks over there who would have lead you in the right direction, next time dont get too impatient.
another note save some $ get either cornsyrup or molasses to start, honey is $$$$$
Moebius
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Why would you want to use Honey as a carb feed? Honey has antibacterial properties, healthy soil contains bacteria.
If carbs are what you want, why would you not use mollasas? It has a higher brix content than honey, its cheaper and it doesnt have the antibacterial properties of honey. Leave the honey for your toast.
MajorCoco
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Randomly, just earlier this evening I was wondering if honey couldn't be used (if you were on a budget or desperate) when making clones. The hydrogen peroxide would keep it free of fungus etc. but really honey is mostly sugar, so I'm not sure that wouldn't dry out the clone through osmosis. Maybe I'll try it one day.
On the issue of nutrients, I am an avid honey eater, and always used to claim that it "wasn't just sugar". Unfortunately, unless you're pouring whole jars of honey into your mix (which would probably lead to sugar overdose) these fancy extras are not found in large enough quantities to make honey a useful nutrient source. Molasses is probably better in terms of nutrient. Amino acids are not something the plant will take up anyway. The molecules are much larger then nutrient molecules, so would probably not pass through the roots membrane.....I'm not a biochemist though, so don't quote me on that. Just late night chatting
On the issue of nutrients, I am an avid honey eater, and always used to claim that it "wasn't just sugar". Unfortunately, unless you're pouring whole jars of honey into your mix (which would probably lead to sugar overdose) these fancy extras are not found in large enough quantities to make honey a useful nutrient source. Molasses is probably better in terms of nutrient. Amino acids are not something the plant will take up anyway. The molecules are much larger then nutrient molecules, so would probably not pass through the roots membrane.....I'm not a biochemist though, so don't quote me on that. Just late night chatting
mad dog bark
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b honest with u guys way i grow i dont really need to flush . was passing on info i gained or ideas.
am with u on mollasas. but like i said i like try things before i comment,even the daft or odd
am with u on mollasas. but like i said i like try things before i comment,even the daft or odd
Arcturon
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Randomly, just earlier this evening I was wondering if honey couldn't be used (if you were on a budget or desperate) when making clones. The hydrogen peroxide would keep it free of fungus etc. but really honey is mostly sugar, so I'm not sure that wouldn't dry out the clone through osmosis. Maybe I'll try it one day.
On the issue of nutrients, I am an avid honey eater, and always used to claim that it "wasn't just sugar". Unfortunately, unless you're pouring whole jars of honey into your mix (which would probably lead to sugar overdose) these fancy extras are not found in large enough quantities to make honey a useful nutrient source. Molasses is probably better in terms of nutrient. Amino acids are not something the plant will take up anyway. The molecules are much larger then nutrient molecules, so would probably not pass through the roots membrane.....I'm not a biochemist though, so don't quote me on that. Just late night chatting
Honey lovers FTW! I like the clone idea, but like you said, it may provide unforeseen consequences. I just made a clone box about a week ago, I'll do some experiments with my nutrient solution. I use 1-2TBSP pure cane sugar, 1/7 capful MiracleGro liquid 12-4-8, and a few drops of StartRight Water Conditioner (it neutralizes chlorine and whatnot and has a very interesting chemical that is used in DNA experiments). I'll add a TBSP of honey to next week's gallon.
genuisgeek
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i'm currently trying out honey feeding they're about 7 weeks in flowering so we'll see what happens I'm excited though. there has't been any side effects that I've physically seen so far, they're still increasing in size pretty well.
jpockets420
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honey is naturally anti-bacterial thus it would kill beneficial bacteria and microbes that help your roots out. There is a reason people don't use it, but I have seen odder posts...like people using their own piss for nutrients smh.
Moebius
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A reasonably intelligent person would understand this. No matter how many times you try and talk logic to people, they will always be those who insist on walking round with their thumbs up their ass.
C'est la vie
Moebius
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This is the most interesting thing Ive read today.
Worldwide bees are dying out to the varroa mite and it takes 12 healthy bees their entire lifetime to make a single tsp of honey. How can Americans afford to pay so little for their honey?
hmmm, something stinks.
