Homemade Hydroponic Grow Cabinet (Need Cloning Help!!)

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SecretStash

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Ok so i figured it was about time I shared all my hard work with you fine people. This will is my 2nd grow and I think that I have definitely kicked it up a few knots. For this grow I wanted to do everything right so I figured I would build a 5.5' x 3.5' x 6' cabinet out of particle board. I divided the interior into a veg room on the right and a flowering room on the left. For the veg room I am using a drip system in rock wool cubes. I have 8 - 4' flouresants running vertical on the walls and 4 - 2' over the tops of the plants with growlux bulbs. Everything is custom build, no store bought hydro system here. I bout the pumps off amazon and most of the other stuff at home depot. I did however buy my nutes and other hydro necessities off of http://www.HTGsupply.com (Great site!)....for the flowering room I built a ebb & flow system and I am using a 400w hps bulb. and to top it all off I have a carbon filter and inline fan creating negative pressure so the only air that escapes has to be cleaned through the carbon filter. After having plants in veg for about 2 months now there is a little residual in my basement, but i think I will just make a Ona bucket and I should be gtg. Pictures to come very shortly...and a few questions about cloning
 
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Ok, so I bought my seed off of the singleseedcentre.com, I am currently growing Blue Moonshine (Fem) It's been in Veg now for over 2 months and I can't for the life of me get this sucker to clone. I am currently on my 2nd attempt and I dont think it is going too well. The first attempt they all died. I think I cut them too long, I went 4 nodes from the top. This time I bought a heating pad and clipped the clones at the 3rd node from the top. I am 1 week in and I dont think they are fairing too well. Here's my procedure.....first i sterilize my razor blade with hydro peroxide...then i find a nice healthy look branch (which they all are) I then proceed to cut at a 45 degree angle just below the 3rd node. Trim off the bottom branches then immediately dip the cut clone into some rooting gel. I'm using 1" rock wool cubes which have been soaked in a low strength nute solution at a ph of 5.6. put the clone in the cube the cube in the dome and then I fill the grow tray up with about 1/2" of that diluted nute solution. Mist twice a day and keep the light right on top of the dome and the heating pad under it. any suggestions would be much appreciated. I just want to get to the point where i have a perpetual harvest but that isn't ever going to happen unless I can get this cloning thing down. PLEASE HELP!!!!
 

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SecretStash said:
I could really use some help on this...anybody?, anybody?, Bueller?, Bueller?
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im sure no cloning expert but what i do know about cloning in rockwool is your overwatering your cubes. dont leave standing water in your tray, it will hold water for quite a while, and as a clone it cant take in any nutes till roots form.

Al's post about cloning into rockwool will benefit you greatly https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/15030-batch-clones-rockwool.html read it all and you will note that he only waters his clones once a day by dipping a corner of the cube into water for a second or 2 and thats about it on watering.
 
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My god man, no nutes! the tips are burnt and you never fertilize in the cloning stage, i barely give them anything in veg even
 
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suprablaski said:
im sure no cloning expert but what i do know about cloning in rockwool is your overwatering your cubes. dont leave standing water in your tray, it will hold water for quite a while, and as a clone it cant take in any nutes till roots form.

Al's post about cloning into rockwool will benefit you greatly https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/15030-batch-clones-rockwool.html read it all and you will note that he only waters his clones once a day by dipping a corner of the cube into water for a second or 2 and thats about it on watering.
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That is an excellent post...I have definitely been over watering....I think tomorrow I'm just going to start all over and follow that guide to the T.

Thanks for your help!!!!!
 
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ok, i just dumped the old batch of clones that apparently had started to mold in the Rockwool cube because of the standing water that was in the tray. I followed Al's guide letter by letter minus the extra long clones he likes to cut. I took 6 clones off of my mother and only need 4 of them to pull through. Wish me luck! I will post an update in about a week and let ya'll know how it's going.
 
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dude, NO NUTES for a good 2 weeks on the cuttings... they need roots for nutes; thats prolly whats killing them. just h202 and water....
and i can never clone using a dome.
lose the dome and build a cheap and easy bubble cloner out of a cheapo walmart goldfish/beta aquarium kit and some black paint and a peice of styrofoam.....
 
Indoor Don

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well i use peat pucks so i don;t know about rock wool, but i never give nutes, which has already been said, i do use a dome and find it works awesome.
 
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Ok so it has been one week since I followed Al's guide on using rockwool to clone. I can't really tell if they are making it or not...Still no roots on the bottom of the cubes. I figured I'd post some pics and see what ya'll thought. I only only using ph adjusted r/o water with no nutes. I am spraying the foliage with water twice a day. A couple of the clones are browning at the tips of the fan leaves. I think, with an emphasis on think, 4/6 are going to make it. I wish this was easier. Has anyone ever used a cloning machine/bubbler? If so, can those rooted clones then be transplanted into rockwool????
 

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alot of people trim the fan leaves back 25-50pct to slow transpiration. i wouldnt do it now if they been sitting for a few days no need to stress them now. but maybe with the next set as you take them. its not required but ive read it helps
 
quietguy420

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Now your clones are too dry, you need water in the LITTLE groves/channels on the bottom of your tray at all times. DONT mist the clones, mist the walls of the clear plastic dome instead, then the plants can take the moisture they need from the air and the water in the grooves at their own leisure instead of being flooded at root sights and drowned on the leaves from water being on them. If the plant has no roots, it CANNOT breathe when covered in water, it has to respirate from the surfaces of the leaves. As the plant grows roots it will develop AIR roots and Water roots. Then you can take the dome off and just mist the plants, they will still be able to breathe through the roots at that point.

In short, first batch TOO MUCH water in tray AND on leaves.

This batch too dry.Fear not though, this batch can still be saved with ease, Just add a little water like 1/8th of an inch layer in the Grooves, just enough to keep the bottom moist. Then mist the heck out of the humidity dome and let them do their thing.
 
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