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AllenHaze

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I have a big bag of happy frog, half a bag of FFOF, about a gallon of peat moss, about a gallon of perlite, black oak earthworm castings, blood and bone meal, Alaska fish fertilizer, molasses, about a cup of dolomite lime, about a half cup of ground-to-dust eggshells. I have 8 plants and two of them have showed pistils, three are seedlings and the others should show any day now they have thus far been growing in FFOF minimal added nutes. I'm pretty sure that is it but if I remember anything I'll add. Anyways I have my own ideas but am new to indoor growing and wanted to get some more ideas to together especially form those who have been doing organic for a while. Thanks in advance and guaranteed rep+ for all responses.
 

mike4c4

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im not sure i understand the question? what is it the you need help with? if the question is about your nute the only thing i see you dont have is epsom salt. please be clear on what you need!
 

AllenHaze

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I'm looking for soil mix ideas, tea ideas, foliar spray ideas. What would you do with this stuff? I already have some planted in FFOF but they'll be ready to transplant soon. I mixed together 2 parts fox farm and one part happy frog then watered just the soil without plants in yet, with molasses @ 1tbs a gallon of water; trying to increase microbes so they fill up the entire pot instead of just where the happy frog is mixed in. I have epsom salt, h2o2, boric acid. I didn't feel like they were necessary for a soil mix only if a problem showed up. I really just want to see what other people would do with this stuff to get the most out of it. :peace:
 

mike4c4

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Ok i cant tell you what to do but i can tell you what i do. I dont like to feed till the plant tells me to. here it a chart of leaves if you have a problem just look at the chart and match it up to the pic. it will tell you what to add instead of throwing everything at them. i dont foliar spray unless i see bugs. your worm tea will be used the most. I mix worm cast, molasses and epsom salt. and if the plants something else they will tell you. the way i see it is they grow fine in the wild just fine so everything you need is right there for you to make your own.




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Banana444

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There are a lot of soil recipes already posted on here you just got to search for them. Plenty of people use that soil on here, I don't. My latest mix consists of about 50% majestic earth( peat, gypsum, dolomite lime, perlite is in it) about 20% mushroom compost, about 15% worm castings and about 15% aditional perlite. Line bottom of pots with pea gravel. Also inoculating with myko tea and a vermicast tea, and I even used the vermicast tea as a foliar spray with exfellent results so far. On my two best plants, where the cotyledons fell off after about 2 and 1/2 weeks, they grew branches and are about 2-3" long. So they are def thriving!
 

Bugeye

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I found the 'Total Living Organics' book by The Rev a good source and will be purchasing 'Teaming with Microbes' on recommendation.
 

AllenHaze

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Thanks. I understand this site is full of resources on just about anything pertaining to cannabis and the some. I just figured it would be eaiser for me to list what I have to work with and have someone who's been doing this a while tell me what they'd do with it to get the most out of it. I have checked several soil recipes and they list many ingredients I don't currently have. :peace:
 

Bugeye

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In that case, are you going to compost your soil for a month before using or do you want advice on something to use right now?
 

Banana444

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Just use what you have, you will learn and grow from it just as your plants do. Thats the foundation of organics which is growing into an artful science. You will learn much from gardening books, just remember its a developing science, so I found some less science based reads to be somewhat obsolete compared to a book like teeming with microbes.
 

AllenHaze

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I wanted ideas on what kind of mix I can get with what I have like maybe throw some blood meal in the happy frog let it sit for a few weeks? Maybe use the castings for a tea with something else I have listed there. Thanks for the kelp idea, I do need something for K. I have a compost bin going it is entirely coffee grounds, coffee filters, bananas, ground to dust eggshells, a handful of foxfarmOF and a handful of of happyfrog. It will be a bit before it's ready but I guessing it'll have a decent K rating for some compost tea. Yet to show K problems atm.
Thanks.bongsmilie
 

foreverflyhi

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Alright, so once agian ur on the right track, kinda.

use what u have, and mix it well togther, and let it cook for 2 months. (Make sure your ratios are right on!)
Meanwhile get to kno how to make teas with wormcastig kelp etc etc and feed the soil u r cooking witht those teas. In two months time you should have primo soil with knowledge on how to make teas.
While all this is happening keep vegging your plants.
also
all ur future questions can be found all over thee organics forum, especially
https://www.rollitup.org/organics/636057-recycled-organic-living-soil-rols.html

170 pages of organic knowledge and crediable sources
 

Bugeye

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Weird, posted a response last night but it looks like it didn't make it. Here's what I'd do with your ingredients, adding kelp meal, alfalfa meal, rice and composted steer manure if you can find them in your area.

I'd peel off a little of the happy frog and perlite to use on seedlings. I'd mix the rest of your HG and FFOFF dirt (maybe 15 gallons total I will assume) with all of your peat moss, egg shells, lime and perlite. I'd toss in a few gallons of castings and about 2 cups bone meal, 1/2 cup blood meal, 6 cups composted steer manure, a cup of kelp meal, two cups of alfalfa meal, 2 cups rice. Put a splash of your fish fertilizer in a gallon of water and water it all down until it is moist, not wet. Let it sit for about a month and check the internal temp to make sure it is heating up.

I'd save some castings, molasses, kelp meal, alfalfa meal, fish fert. and steer manure for making teas.

I'm sure others might mix your ingredients up differently but that's what I'd try with those ingredients.
 
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