Help designing 1000 watt setup...

gex0420

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Hi all! First off, thank you all! I have been lurking in the shadows for some time now and absorbing your knowledge like a sponge :mrgreen:. Thank the almighty cannabis gods, I finally have the resources to build my first grow room! I'm extremely excited and have decided to take the approach of do it right the first time so, what i have so far is a 9 plant bio-bucket/DWC type system. Honestly, I am not sure of the difference between DWC and bio buckets or if the buckets are just a "type" of DWC... anyways moving on... each plant will be in a 5 gal. bucket, held in place by lava rocks in a netpot. each bucket has a feed line and return line that runs to the reservoir. I have an entire bedroom to work with but, i am torn between using the room itself or having the plants in an enclosed grow-box. I would keep the ballast, reservoir, and any other heat contributing devices out. I'm hoping to be able to vent the heat from the light out of the box fast enough that i wont have to worry about temp.... but i doubt it.... dimensions of my box, if one were implicated would be approx 5x5x6 LxWxH.
I could go higher but would like for the bottom floor of box to be a couple feet up so that my return lines can "waterfall" into the res. creating more dissolved oxygen. or at least i hope so. my mind went blank as to what to say next. i have tried to plan as well as possible but i really would appreciate any tips or suggestions someone may have.. one of my main questions i can think of is... "do you think ill be better off growing using the whole room or an enclosed environment venting in and out of the room.. I'm really trying to avoid having to use a chiller or A/C... i really cant afford the chiller and cant afford to run the A/C lol. thanks again everybody and, i look forward to growing with you.
 

gex0420

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I see i have had quite a few views but no input or suggestions... maybe I wasn't clear? does anybody have any experience growing in a whole room vs. a grow box within a room? from my understanding a 1k hps light has about a 4x4 footprint of primary light. Is this wrong or should I increase my pots from 9 to 12? i would hate to waste any primary lighting available.
if you have any questions or suggestions about my project feel free to ask... until next time good growin!
 

stupidclown

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not sure because i dont use one but i think 5x5 is the footprint of 1000watt

I grow in a tent i like it then i can clone veg and flower in one room.
 

Ole Budheavy

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Its going to get hot from that light. I think you could use a lager space if you have the room. It would probably help with the overall airflow if you had the margins of the grow space open and clear. Also equipment like fans/filters can be used in the extra space.
 

Xan2

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i run 2x 1000watters and they get hot, i now have cooltubes wich is nice to have and not expensive(100$ ea.). If you are going with a 1000w with 6' celling you should consider cooling for the light.

DWC is very nice, i had pretty decent result using dwc setup.
 

gex0420

Member
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated. 5x5 footprint duly noted. I am also now contemplating how to run my ducting if i want to use the entire room, I'm starting to think i wont be able to tame any possible heat or other problems that may arise from having the 1k in cramped quarters.

I am going to seal off the one window in the room because it goes to public streets, i'm trying to avoid that. My fiancee would go ballistic if i started cutting holes in the walls!:cuss: So that leaves me with the... Damn, I just put my joint down to go check the room to see what size my attic entrance through the closet was (i planned on venting through it) and I guess it doesn't have one. :wall: Now how in the heck am i going to intake exhaust my room? I cant depend on leaving the door open, You never know when family stops by.

Did some shopping for black 5 gallon buckets with lids. I'm going to get 10
(gives me one extra) but they were more than i hoped. everyone wants 5-10 dollars per bucket no lid! but i found a place online affordablebuckets.com (go figure). 12 buckets @ 2.99 ok reasonable ill buy the couple extra... but for lids the come in 24 packs @ 1.27 each thats 30 bucks on lids. I might as well get the lids from home depot, only reasons i want to avoid home depots buckets is because i would have to buy paint, and because im pretty sure they are thin pieces of shit. i would hate to come home to a flooded room :cry:. If anyone knows where to get black sturdy 5 gals it would help.

I probably killed my thread by now sitting here babbling and smoking..bongsmilie BUT!
for those of you still tuned in, I do plan posting tons of pics as i start gearing up.
if anyone has any interest in running a setup like this (even though i probably haven't explained it very well to you) I will be more than glad to make this more into a tutorial. I am starting from scratch so everyone will see the plethora of equipment I purchase and build and I hopefully can explain everything as best as I possibly can.

This is going to take some time unfortunately i'm not rich :sad: But, should be running in a couple months. I will not be able to do it without the rollitup community, any and all feedback opinions suggestions are all greatly appreciated and i will definitely give +rep to all who deserve.

so now i'm wondering, any ideas on venting this room?
If there's no other way ill take one for the team and cut some holes but if i don't post again within a day or so send the search team. lol only joking.

I will be relying on a one foot waterfall from the return lines to oxygenate the water, has anyone heard of this being used or have any idea if it will work?
i'm worried i might drown my plants due to lack of oxygen i guess i could always pick up an o2 sensor.

First cycle I will not be able to afford co2 so i will be using the yeast mixture to produce my own. Has anyone ever used this method and measured the ppm's in relation to area size?
I would be highly interested.

I better sign off, until next time good growing :weed:





 

Ole Budheavy

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Tell your fiancee that you need to have a closed loop cooling system that will eventually allow you to use CO2 without any waste. I have read that having an open space for your res where light can reach leads to algae development. Maybe keep that "splash" idea with the res tank but pipe that water and let it fall in the tank with out having the water exposed to light.
 

gex0420

Member
Thanks Budheavy, You are right i don't want any light particles to contact my water. I definitely overlooked that fact when i planned the waterfall. that could have been a disaster for my system, you have just saved me some time AND money! BRAVO + rep. as for the ventilation i think im going to cut two holes in the top of the closet ceiling so that i can run an intake from an exterior attic vent and exhaust either directly outside via another exterior attic vent OR from the room out the hole in ceiling through the attic and down into the garage. I think the latter may be a bit stealthier as far as smell, noise and heat plumes rising from a vent at my house. any opinions or tips on my ventilation would be appreciated. should start posting pics of blueprints and equipment soon. thank you all for your help with this design.

Until next time.... Good Growing!
 

Ole Budheavy

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Thanks Budheavy, You are right i don't want any light particles to contact my water. I definitely overlooked that fact when i planned the waterfall. that could have been a disaster for my system, you have just saved me some time AND money! BRAVO + rep. as for the ventilation i think im going to cut two holes in the top of the closet ceiling so that i can run an intake from an exterior attic vent and exhaust either directly outside via another exterior attic vent OR from the room out the hole in ceiling through the attic and down into the garage. I think the latter may be a bit stealthier as far as smell, noise and heat plumes rising from a vent at my house. any opinions or tips on my ventilation would be appreciated. should start posting pics of blueprints and equipment soon. thank you all for your help with this design.

Until next time.... Good Growing!

Hey we're all here to outgrow the government in the broad scheme of things, so your welcome. The cooler the intake the better. I would also say that a cheap duct booster will aid in the exhaust of the light cooling system if the run of the ducting is longer than say 20 feet. It depends on the inline fan you use. I have a Can Fan. I think it the High Output model at about 435 cfm. The damn 6" Can draws more amps than the 8" normal one. I think the 8" has a higher cfm rating than the 6" HO. Research the specs. God bless the internet. Keep me posted. :bigjoint::blsmoke::weed::sleep:
 
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