Gun ownership, what's your views?

medicineman

medicineman

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Here's basically mine:
In some minds, guns are linked to murder and other unlawful uses. Yet, they seldom view gasoline, matches, wire, kitchen knives or hobnailed boots as tools of violence. People are familiar with those everyday objects and know that they are not evil magic. The will to kill is the paramount ingredient in homicides. Absent that will, no weapon would lift itself to harm a human.
Conditioning by television or newspapers makes some view every gun as a tragedy in the making. Evening news often show a picture of a gun even when talking about a beating which involved feet and fists. Without a real-world basis for comparison, it is easy to assume that firearms are possessed of supernatural powers. After all, if our understanding of computers was based on Hollywood, wouldn't we all live in fear of killer robots and rogue mainframes?
Judicious use of complex tools separates humans from all other species. To throw away one of our main evolutionary accomplishments out of misguided fear would be akin to wishing away the well-developed brain to make births easier. The loss of functionality to us as human beings would far exceed any potential gain from such a trade.
 
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medicineman said:
Here's basically mine:
In some minds, guns are linked to murder and other unlawful uses. Yet, they seldom view gasoline, matches, wire, kitchen knives or hobnailed boots as tools of violence. People are familiar with those everyday objects and know that they are not evil magic. The will to kill is the paramount ingredient in homicides. Absent that will, no weapon would lift itself to harm a human.
Conditioning by television or newspapers makes some view every gun as a tragedy in the making. Evening news often show a picture of a gun even when talking about a beating which involved feet and fists. Without a real-world basis for comparison, it is easy to assume that firearms are possessed of supernatural powers. After all, if our understanding of computers was based on Hollywood, wouldn't we all live in fear of killer robots and rogue mainframes?
Judicious use of complex tools separates humans from all other species. To throw away one of our main evolutionary accomplishments out of misguided fear would be akin to wishing away the well-developed brain to make births easier. The loss of functionality to us as human beings would far exceed any potential gain from such a trade.
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my girlfriend seems to think all guns should just dissapear from public


i think she is an idiot


every person should own a gun, know how to use it, and be an expert in firearms safety


if everyone did own a gun, carjackings, home invasions, etc would all decline because when your armed, your attacker faces the possibility of serious injury or death, compared to a place where guns are illegal and the criminals who already have guns can have their way with whoever they wish
 
medicineman

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Wavels said:
Med, I agree completely with your most excellent post!

Outstanding!
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Thanks. I score one every once in a while. Seems like conservatives and this liberal agree on Gun status. BTW, just bought a TT33 pistol, Russian issue. 1500+FPS. Will penetrate 12 layers of Kevlar. They are pretty cheap too, Look them up on the net and see if these might work for you guys, Cops beware.
 
Hayduke

Hayduke

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You would be better off beating an intruder with the phone than calling 911 and waiting for the pigs. I think you would be stupid to not own a gun. I do not think it should be illegal to carry a gun. If criminal types knew there was a chance you were armed...they would at least think twice. I also think keeping an unloaded gun in the home is less effective than an aluminum bat...I do not keep one racked for safety but all except the .22 is loaded.

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texashustle

texashustle

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medicineman said:
Thanks. I score one every once in a while. Seems like conservatives and this liberal agree on Gun status. BTW, just bought a TT33 pistol, Russian issue. 1500+FPS. Will penetrate 12 layers of Kevlar. They are pretty cheap too, Look them up on the net and see if these might work for you guys, Cops beware.
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Went from good post to scary. :lol:
 
lopezri

lopezri

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medicineman said:
Here's basically mine:
In some minds, guns are linked to murder and other unlawful uses. Yet, they seldom view gasoline, matches, wire, kitchen knives or hobnailed boots as tools of violence. People are familiar with those everyday objects and know that they are not evil magic. The will to kill is the paramount ingredient in homicides. Absent that will, no weapon would lift itself to harm a human.
Conditioning by television or newspapers makes some view every gun as a tragedy in the making. Evening news often show a picture of a gun even when talking about a beating which involved feet and fists. Without a real-world basis for comparison, it is easy to assume that firearms are possessed of supernatural powers. After all, if our understanding of computers was based on Hollywood, wouldn't we all live in fear of killer robots and rogue mainframes?
Judicious use of complex tools separates humans from all other species. To throw away one of our main evolutionary accomplishments out of misguided fear would be akin to wishing away the well-developed brain to make births easier. The loss of functionality to us as human beings would far exceed any potential gain from such a trade.
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Ha ha. That's a good comparison. It reminds me about how my dogs are afraid of my vacuum cleaner. They think it's somehow going to get them and I've never even chased them with it or anything. They just have some sort of innate fear of the thing.

And I agree with your points on ownership - surprise, surprise. We have something in common. It is our right, after all, to be able to own them, but with ownership comes responsibility.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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texashustle said:
Went from good post to scary. :lol:
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How so? I don't have the inclination to do any harm to cops, but I feel that the playing field should be leveled. I have a carry permit, which proves that I am a responsible firearms owner and the right to carry says a lot about my status. If I were a criminal, then maybe I shouldn't be allowed to purchase any firearm. I'm not. Cops beware was not a threat, but now the playing field is level. Don't worry, these will be banned shortly. Better get yours while you can.
 
texashustle

texashustle

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medicineman said:
How so? I don't have the inclination to do any harm to cops, but I feel that the playing field should be leveled. I have a carry permit, which proves that I am a responsible firearms owner and the right to carry says a lot about my status. If I were a criminal, then maybe I shouldn't be allowed to purchase any firearm. I'm not. Cops beware was not a threat, but now the playing field is level. Don't worry, these will be banned shortly. Better get yours while you can.
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BC now my vest is useless. :lol: Yeah the lookout cops or whatever was like woah. Like you were gunning for them or something. Thanks for explaining. So how do I get one of these super guns?
 
medicineman

medicineman

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texashustle said:
BC now my vest is useless. :lol: Yeah the lookout cops or whatever was like woah. Like you were gunning for them or something. Thanks for explaining. So how do I get one of these super guns?
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Type into your browser TT33. It will take you to many sites. I'm pretty sure the cops have armor piercing ammo, so that vest was useless to begin with. Might stop a dumbass criminals bullet though.
 
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ilkhan

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Every Junior or Senior in High school should go through firearms saftey course for one semester.
Upon graduation every person who completed the course should be issued an M-14.
 
stumps

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lopezri said:
Ha ha. That's a good comparison. It reminds me about how my dogs are afraid of my vacuum cleaner. They think it's somehow going to get them and I've never even chased them with it or anything. They just have some sort of innate fear of the thing.

And I agree with your points on ownership - surprise, surprise. We have something in common. It is our right, after all, to be able to own them, but with ownership comes responsibility.
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lol I turn my vac on and I have to beat my rotties off with a stick they love the vac.
 
medicineman

medicineman

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ilkhan said:
Every Junior or Senior in High school should go through firearms saftey course for one semester.
Upon graduation every person who completed the course should be issued an M-14.
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Like switzerland. Nobody fucks with switzerland, probably because that's where the money is, all the illegal money that our politicians, elites and other countries criminal bossmen put there for safe keeping. It is an international unwritten law, don't fuck with switzerland.
 
stalebiscuit

stalebiscuit

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mine

guns are tools, nothing more. they are only as dangerous as the people who use them, just as vehicles. they are protected by the 2nd amendment unlike vehicles and for good reason, they are needed in a free society. to be able to defend yourself and your family properly is a necessary right. for those who choose not to own firearms, its fine, you dont have to, but dont tread on my rights

i think most of the current legislation for owning a firearm is bullshit and alot of it needs to be taken away. "cooling off" periods, 3 day waiting periods, banning a firearm because of astehtics or because hollywood made them look "mean" needs to go and there is no logical reason to have any of these

i support the idea of being able to own fully-automatic weapons and to treat them the same as automatic weapons. the BATF is one of the biggest enemies of free gun ownership in the US. i like guns, not just because they go boom but for their mechanical structure and how they work (i like it, its interesting)

the only reason people feel uncomfortable around guns is because they dont understand them, the public school systems have driven this home. (the NRA actually had a program (that failed) teaching kids what to do when they find a gun, it was called eddie the eagle and was a very good idea. the school systems rather than teach kids properly about guns would rather shun them all together (so when a kid does find one hes like "cool" rather than "i should tell an adult))

so to put it shortly, i very strongly support gun rights and most peoples ability to own and carry one, i dont think i should need a carry permit to carry my firearm and whats more is the authorities should give citizens access to the stolen gun database (so if you are about to buy a gun from a friend, you can look up the serial numbers to find if its stolen, the only way to do this now is to go to the sheriffs office and let them see it, if you have a stolen gun on your hand you get arrested, so why would anyone do that, right?)

i dont trust or like the government, that is my number one reason for owning a gun. not saying i think the government will need to be shot at or some 1984 shit will happen, i just dont trust the cops or the government to defend me all the time
 
stalebiscuit

stalebiscuit

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medicineman said:
How so? I don't have the inclination to do any harm to cops, but I feel that the playing field should be leveled. I have a carry permit, which proves that I am a responsible firearms owner and the right to carry says a lot about my status. If I were a criminal, then maybe I shouldn't be allowed to purchase any firearm. I'm not. Cops beware was not a threat, but now the playing field is level. Don't worry, these will be banned shortly. Better get yours while you can.
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thugs and gangs have body armor to
 
stalebiscuit

stalebiscuit

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medicineman said:
Type into your browser TT33. It will take you to many sites. I'm pretty sure the cops have armor piercing ammo, so that vest was useless to begin with. Might stop a dumbass criminals bullet though.
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its not even a super gun, its old school russian surplus (the funny thing is people dont understand how body armor or guns work, so if they knew that this could punch through body armor they would wanna ban them for no reason)

cops use mostly hollow point rounds, so vests would stop a .40 cal (maybe, there is no guarantee). cops shoot at people who are generally less armed and protected than they are
 
medicineman

medicineman

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stalebiscuit said:
its not even a super gun, its old school russian surplus (the funny thing is people dont understand how body armor or guns work, so if they knew that this could punch through body armor they would wanna ban them for no reason)

cops use mostly hollow point rounds, so vests would stop a .40 cal (maybe, there is no guarantee). cops shoot at people who are generally less armed and protected than they are
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Right, and it's relatively cheap, and its projectile is actually a submachine gun round, 1500+ FPS is unheard of in a pistol. Get yours now, I'm not kidding, these will be banned soon, mark my words. For 219.00 plus all the added charges, background check, added profit for the gun dealer, (You can't get it shipped to, you unless you have a FFL) taxes, and a couple of added charges like 5% for using a credit card etc. Mine came to 337.00, with a can of ammo, 1225 rounds, the total was less than 500.00 bucks. Get an extended magazine and you have one powerful machine. It is only an 8 round gun, 1 in the chamber and 7 in the mag.
AIM Romanian TT-33 7.62x25 Pistol Romanian TT-33 7.62x25 Pistol
 
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