Fox News admits Obamacare will reduce the deficit.

mr2shim

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LOL wow.. Did this really happen? Am I in the twilight zone...

and with that, all of Fox News' minions stop spreading lies about Obamacare.

No, I don't believe it. Something cynical is going on beneath this truth telling thing Fox News has just discovered.
 

NLXSK1

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The Affordable Care Act will, according to congressional auditors, bring health care coverage to 30 million uninsured Americans and reduce the deficit by $210 billion over a decade.
Now, does that mean it will reduce the deficit when they were selling us this program at coming in under a trillion dollars or now when the cost is estimated to be nearly 3 trillion dollars???

And why the fuck do we care about 21 billion per year when we are running deficits of thousands of billions of dollars???
 

mr2shim

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Now, does that mean it will reduce the deficit when they were selling us this program at coming in under a trillion dollars or now when the cost is estimated to be nearly 3 trillion dollars???

And why the fuck do we care about 21 billion per year when we are running deficits of thousands of billions of dollars???
Is this your way of saying sorry for lying for 2 years? Never satisfied. Typical conservative is typical. Like I said, the man could do anything/everything and you tards will still find something to criticize.
 

NoDrama

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The deficit will continue to get bigger, so it may reduce how quickly it gets bigger by a small amount, but don't think that this is going to actually make the deficit get smaller, it aint gonna do that.
 

abandonconflict

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Now, does that mean it will reduce the deficit when they were selling us this program at coming in under a trillion dollars or now when the cost is estimated to be nearly 3 trillion dollars???

And why the fuck do we care about 21 billion per year when we are running deficits of thousands of billions of dollars???
deciphering...


"when they say reduce the deficit, do they actually mean increase the deficit?"



Answer: NO, they have been lying all along, Obamacare will in fact reduce the deficit.
 

abandonconflict

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The deficit will continue to get bigger, so it may reduce how quickly it gets bigger by a small amount, but don't think that this is going to actually make the deficit get smaller, it aint gonna do that.
Actually, between this and making rich folks pay their fair share, a surplus will be generated. It IS gonna do that.
 

ChesusRice

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LOL wow.. Did this really happen? Am I in the twilight zone...

and with that, all of Fox News' minions stop spreading lies about Obamacare.

No, I don't believe it. Something cynical is going on beneath this truth telling thing Fox News has just discovered.
Murdoch doesnt like Romney either

Another interesting fact
Rupert Murdoch is for immigration reform and amnesty
 

Canna Sylvan

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No shit it will. It's an insurance tax. Most won't even be able to afford the penalty. The penalty isn't even insurance at over $800 per year. Even if you do happen to get the real insurance, which can go as high as $3,000 per year, you still pay for actual health coverage like a PPO, not even an HMO. This is all a scam. Uncle Sam and Obama can go fuck each other!
 

NLXSK1

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Is this your way of saying sorry for lying for 2 years? Never satisfied. Typical conservative is typical. Like I said, the man could do anything/everything and you tards will still find something to criticize.
When Obama sold us on Obamacare it was supposed to cost about 900 billion dollars. Now the price tag is 2.7 trillion dollars. That means that over a decade it will cost only 180billion dollars per year EXTRA. Now, what I am asking is... If you spend 180 bucks for something and saved 21 bucks... How much did you spend?
 

NLXSK1

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Nope, it aint gonna do that. You could tax the rich 100% and it wouldn't do it either.
Because politicians would simply spend more...

The fact that they are spending 40% more than they are taking in and we are not burning down Washington shows what sheep Americans have become.
 

ChesusRice

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No shit it will. It's an insurance tax. Most won't even be able to afford the penalty. The penalty isn't even insurance at over $800 per year. Even if you do happen to get the real insurance, which can go as high as $3,000 per year, you still pay for actual health coverage like a PPO, not even an HMO. This is all a scam. Uncle Sam and Obama can go fuck each other!
Again you have your head so far up your ass you look like a donut

The minimum amount — per person — will be $695 once the tax is fully phased in. But it will be less to start. The minimum penalty per person will start at $95 in 2014, the first year that the law will require individuals to obtain coverage. And it will rise to $325 the following year.Starting in 2017, the minimum tax per person will rise each year with inflation. And for children 18 and under, the minimum per-person tax is half of that for adults.However, the minimum amount per family is capped at triple the per-person tax, no matter how many individuals are in the taxpayer’s household. So, for example, a couple with one child over 18 (or two children age 18 or under), and no coverage, would pay a minimum of $285 in 2014, $975 in 2015 and $2,085 in 2016. And that would be the minimum no matter how many uninsured dependents a taxpayer has.The tax would be more for persons with higher taxable incomes. When phased in, it will be 2.5 percent of household income that exceeds the income threshold for filing a tax return. For 2011, those thresholds were $9,500 for a single person under age 65, and $19,000 for a married person filing jointly with a spouse. So, to give a rough calculation, a couple with $100,000 of income might pay a tax of $2,025 if they choose to go without coverage.But the penalty can never exceed the cost of the national average premiums for the lowest-cost “bronze” plans being offered through the new insurance exchanges called for under the law. We have no way of knowing what that average rate might turn out to be in 2014, but there is reason to think it could be quite high. For example, the total cost of a basic Government Employees Health Association plan currently offered through the Federal Employee Health Benefit program (the model for the state insurance exchanges) totals $9,459 per year for a family plan, and $4,159 for individual coverage.​
 

abandonconflict

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LOl you don't even know what that is or how it applies.

You said "you could tax the rich at 100% and it wouldn't do it either" as a retort to the rich paying a fair share, this is true, because of the laffer curve. Although I didn't say 100% tax on the rich, I said fair share, nice try though.
 

beenthere

New Member
LOL wow.. Did this really happen? Am I in the twilight zone...

and with that, all of Fox News' minions stop spreading lies about Obamacare.

No, I don't believe it. Something cynical is going on beneath this truth telling thing Fox News has just discovered.
Where in the hell do you hear in that video Fox News admit Obamacare will reduce the deficit?
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
A $2,025 tax is over 2.5 times what I said. The $4,159 actual plan is nearly 1.4 times what I said. The prices went up a bit since a few years ago when this was first proposed.

So who has their head up their ass now?

How about the provision which states hospital ERs will pay a penalty if a person goes to one twice in a month. Say a person is in a bad car crash. He comes back three weeks later with a brain aneurysm. Because of the penalty, ERs can deny patients for emergencies and force them to another ER. Right now witg no Obamacare, ERs can't turn away patients.

Way to go Obama!

Your savior sucks.
 
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