flushing

okay so the ppm of my flushing water is 048 and the run off is about 114-113 would you say she is flushed or does she need another flush thanks everyone.

I grow in soil so don't bother flushing. Makes no difference to smoke and taste. It's the drying and curing

I'm also growing in soil but the taste of my last grow had a bitter chemical taste it so this grow i have decided to flush go around

ganjarules106 said:

I'm also growing in soil but the taste of my last grow had a bitter chemical taste it so this grow i have decided to flush go around

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I feed water only for 10-14 days before harvest. I call it a "cleanse" not a flush, letting the plant consume what remains. If you need to flush faster than that, you could use one of the flush additives which are sucrose-based, releasing the ionic bond of salts in the soil to help them flush away.

I hate to sound like I'm on a crusade to convert people, but if you want to compare tastes, put $20 down on Grow More Sea Grow nutrients. They're a hybrid synthetic with organic ingredients. Myself and friends noticed a distinct richness/depth to the taste (after growing with purely synthetic GH 3-part). It's not a lot to gamble with. If it works out, you'll have enough nutes for 20 grows. (PM me if you need info about how much to use, etc. I need to document the info eventually so I can refer people to it.).

EDIT: A decent schedule can be found at the place selling Sea Grow (http://www.plantsthatproduce.com/guide-nutrients-for-cannabis.html). Scroll through it to find "oranicaly active medium" and "small-scale." I do my own thing with a couple other components (calmag and liquid karma). But, the NPK ratios come out similar to what that schedule produces. I'm sure maxi-cal and jump start are just as good. I have leftover stuff I'm using, otherwise I'd use those two products.

kiwipaulie said:

I grow in soil so don't bother flushing. Makes no difference to smoke and taste. It's the drying and curing

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I find and agree a long cure is really the only essential step here for a good taste and smoke.

Toilets are for flushing. Starving your plant definitely detracts from your harvest yields and quality imo. If not overfed or fighting salt build-up then flushing is a bad thing imo.

ganjarules106 said:

I'm also growing in soil but the taste of my last grow had a bitter chemical taste it so this grow i have decided to flush go around

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That's the best Thing you can do to ensure a clean smoke. Always flush.

People say don't flush in soil, there's no need, dont understand and have mislead Thinking that there's no difference to using soil indoors compared to Out in the ground. There's plenty microorganism and natural filters on ground that are continually renewed and active. Using soil indoors only for a certain amount of time can all the true benefits of soil be used, so say 4/5 weeks on average. After that time all nutrient/additives, organic or not build up in the soil faster than they can be naturally broken down; most cases they can't even be broken down especially as a majority of growers pump more feed into their girls during late flowering.
Now that being said if minimum use of feed is used during early stages of grow a midway flush in soil almost always will ensure your smoke is not as harsh as to no flush at all throughout.

Be sure to let us know what the outcome of your smoke is after flushing, it's always good to get feedback and opinion after trying yourself and could possibly add to the many other useful knowledge and experiences here on RIU.

Illicithunter said:

I find and agree a long cure is really the only essential step here for a good taste and smoke.

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You know you have good tasty bud from a flushed bud from the first smoke and can guarantee that a week cure would give u a great smoke, the smell for sure would be more distinct and appealing in most cases. If you have to be waiting for a good long cure to get ya good taste n smoke from not flushing then there's something not right.

Dont mind me though because only a blind bat couldn't see that one.

SnapsProvolone said:

Toilets are for flushing. Starving your plant definitely detracts from your harvest yields and quality imo. If not overfed or fighting salt build-up then flushing is a bad thing imo.

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Contrary to common belief, flushing does not starve the plant, the medium is the sole concentration of flush products and helping to breakdown the build up of salt on the roots. The leaves are food stores (this we all can agree on) the stored food in the roots too don't forget that it's not what's inside that's being flushed so take note, at week 6.5/7 the girls slow down in their intake of our nutes and solely concentrate on using all remaining energy stored to fill, dense out more and fragrance the room with an even more appealing scent. This is because the plant knows it is going to die and is preparing for it to be taken n knocked back by a stout male. With this knowledge you learn that flushing in the last 7-10 days ensures your plants are able to take in their stored food from within themselves which in turn for us gives a cleaner more fulfilling smoke with less to no chemicals potentially ruining taste n smoke. The use of water after using flush formular is so that the broken down salt is washed away, not to disturb the plant from its natural process. Outdoors this process is done by all the organisms and rain too so the argument nature doesn't flush is in term incorrect. Nature does flush but as we become the playmakers in doors we need to do what we can to replicate nature. If nature didnt naturally flush PhD scientist and botanist wouldn't come up with a flush product.

Quick note to say. Watering only for 2weeks straight is yes depending on the rate your girls clear their stored foods, is starving your girls slightly especially if you haven't fed them well to optimum levels.

Yawn, flushing is to fix a problem, if you grow correctly, you shouldn't have a problem, therefore, no need to flush.

No need to flush if you are in good clean soil and using decent nutes.

Cut back to like 1/2 or 1/3 strength in the last week of fattening, then water with just your sweetener/molasses/wtf ever and ph'd water your last week of ripening and you are fine.

And I know no one has said it yet, but for the love of christ, you don't need to drown your plant in 15 gallons of water your last week before harvest... I'll just throw that out before I see someone post it.

You're not supposed to flush in hydro either.

If the plant looks healthy when you harvest, it will have the highest smoke quality when it's done drying.

BigMaineyXL said:

You know you have good tasty bud from a flushed bud from the first smoke and can guarantee that a week cure would give u a great smoke, the smell for sure would be more distinct and appealing in most cases. If you have to be waiting for a good long cure to get ya good taste n smoke from not flushing then there's something not right.

Dont mind me though because only a blind bat couldn't see that one.

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.....once again, do what you do cause it is what it is. I don't really care if you flush or not, a long cure is not supposed to be substituted for any reason.

I for one DO NOT flush. Flood and drain in sog perpetual coco run the same EC the whole cycle. Just like a good bbq, Low N' Slow baby Just my input, if flushing works for you use it, I like it when I keep em green until the end (or at least try lol).

I'm with the Majority here, no flushing, unless it is my toilet.
Bless,
DZ

Some people might consider feeding straight water between nutrient feeding as a "flush".
I am in my last 3 weeks and my PPM at 700PPM, it was at 1000PPM.
A sample of my feed schedule is , today 700 PPM 5.85-5.9PH 1/2 gallon to each of my 5 gallon hempy buckets. The next day will have no water and the day after that will be PH correct water only, then I skip a day and go back to Nutes. This is not Flushing, it is adding water to the existing Resevoir below the plant so the built up foods can be brought to the roots of the plant.

Flushing is to try and clean up an imbalance, if your plant is healthy it should never need to be flushed.

I feed nutes and water as per my schedule till the last dry day in the 9th week.
I have tried cutting back nutes and feeding water only and the plant did not get as many Trichomes and bud size was diminished.

ahhh yes. The old flush arguement.

Give your plants what they need to thrive. No more, no less. You don't need to be BLASTING them with nitrogen and supplements at the end of the flowering cycle, but you shouldn't be starving them, either.

Have you guys ever grown anything besides pot???