fist indoor grow

Slipon

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hi all .. please welcome me :) as Im new to the bord and new to growing indoor.


just want start a grow thread of me own and post a few pic of my fist ever indoor grow ..


but please bare with me .. boath with my english (as it is my seccon languess) and with my set up so fare ..
still learning and it did suddenly go a bit fast (I guess you know how it is ;)




27 days in to day ..
keeping a grow journal for my self but also wanted to share some pics and get some opinions and some advice
did a lot of reading in here and other bords before I started and doing the last 27 days.




as Im tired of buying it, a hazzel, risky and a lot of $ not to talk about who is makeing all them money ..

I desided to try out with a small 2 plant grow .. just need a littel sleep medecin at night (have a bit experiance with outside grow/makeing oil aso. from way back)





just to explain a littel of my set up so fare as it is`t ideal:

have a 2 room 82 squar meter appartment (guess thats like 240 squar feet ?)
so I have to keep em in my living room .. that just how it have to be ..

but got a nice corner (L shaped room) and the room is big (40 squar meters/120 sq. feet) and got nice ventilation system (new building) so can controle the temp./humidity more or less ..

Im thinking if Im happy so are they ? tho that means "low" (40%) humidity doing veg. can stretch it to 45%
but I can easily get that down to 30% when its time to flower

so I guess thats close enough ?


air is changes rappetly and I can also keep the windows open when at home (with a net .. so no bugs)
guess Ill realy need that in late flowering :D

27 days in now and I can allready smell em when comming home .. Ooh well guess thats the price
(or a upgrade for the future/next grow .. some kind of filter and a even more closed room .. just have a double curtain up now around a table to keep light in/out)

keeping tempeture around 24-27 celsius (75-80 fahrenheit) and a littel lower at night time




space: a table .. 1,5 m x 1m (5x3 feet) and around 2,5m high from floor to sealing 1,8m from table to sealing with a curtain on a rail from top to bottom minus 2 inches for air in/out


strain: violator kush (choose it for the small size) 5 pack femi (dont want to bother with males with so littel space aso.)


soil: light mix biobizz fist had em in ½ gallon contains replantet them in to a 1½ and a 2 gallon pots like 16-18 days after germination as the roots was begining to grow out of the bottom (on a budget and that was what I had .. thinking of +3 gallons pots .. like 14 days before flowering .. just need to buy em)


nutriens: floraduo 2 part + rip for flowering and yucca for folie feet and watering


PH start kit: (trying to keep water PH between 6 and 7 hope thats allright ? need to buy a PH/ECC meter when I get some more money)


fans/vent: intake vent in the bottom and a normal table vent. in the room
intake is a tower vent that is under the table lying down 2 inches over the floor .. set on low (all the time) taped up the rest of the space so it blow in fresh air under the table and up behind it to the plants .. curtain is like 2 inches open in the top so let hot/old air out

question: schould the table vent in the room hit the plants ? or just blow in the room with out hitting the plants directly ? some Ppl. say it should to strengthen the steam and some say it could give em wind stress ??? I have let it swing and hitting the plants so fare and steams is realy tick :) like a pensel or so and I dont see any stress ?



light: 3x2 (total 6 tube) T5HO 49W fixtures I got for FREE at work :)
(was changing the outside lamps .. and was about to throw them out !!! just tok em apart and strip them for what I needed ;)
acctualy this was what got it startet for real .. had been playing with the idea for a long time ..
so all it did cost me was like 50$ to get 4x6500k and 2x2700k bulbs (a total of 27900 lumen ;) keeping them like 2-4 inches away (is that ok for t5ho 49w ?)

light time: desided to go 20/4 (after a lot of reading .. a lot of oppinions on this I must say .. 24/7 or 20/4 or 18/6 ..
hard to find out what is best for a new grower .. guess I have to make my own experiance here)


but with out knowing I think they do need some night time (just my logic)
and so do my eletric bill and it also look wierd if thers allways lights on and I dont want to get them black war curtain in front of my windows and balcony door
to block all light out .. also why I guess I need to go with a auto strain next time since I have to find out a way to flower this girls now with no light !!!

guess this could turn out to be my biggest problem with my set up ? as it is`t 100% light proof and I also spend time in the room .. with normal lights on out sied the groow "room"

could need some help/oppinions here plz.

I have been thinking of ways to do it .. one way could be to place them in a big closed I have in the hall (have to remove my tools and stuff :)
for like 4 hours before night time/I go to sleep (evry day doing flowering tho :(

then I can put em out under the light/timer for another 10 more hours of darkness might be 8 hours of total darkness and 2 wher the sun is setting out side behind 3 curtain a window and on the other side of the house..

what do you Ppl think ?
could it work ? read some wher that a plant who is flowring easily can flower with 14 hours of light ?
and I will "only" get 12 + 2 of very wake light but would need to move the plants evry night for 8 weeks ( I will for sure go with autos next time .. guess this is what happens when you rush in to things :D but then agin .. you will learn from it ..




so to boil it down ..
is 40-45% humidity ok doing veg ? and is 30% ideal for flowering ?
schould the table ventilatior swing and hit the plants or just blow air around the room ?
is my ventilation enough (if I can live with the smell) ?
is 10 hours of total darkness and 2 hours or realy wake light ok for flowering ? and will it hurt/stress my plants to stay in a closed closet for the fist 4 hours of darkness ?
is 75-80 fahrenheit ok ? 80 is just under the light .. the room is mostly 75-77
is 3 gallon pots enough to get full haverst out of them ?
is 6-7 water PH ok ? hard to get it precise with a start kit .. checking the runn off tho and it do look ok . between 6-7 as well .. my best guess would be like 6,2-6,8 .. I hope


also .. desided to train them since I only got 2 plants going and 5x2 feet of t5 ho light
couldnt deside on lst or topping/fim .. so did go boath ways .. one have been fim succesfully 4-6 tops is showing + 4 more comming up from lower down ..

other one I have begon to lst also got like 6-8 tops comming nicely up ..


here is a few pictures from the start to now

day 1
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day 8
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day 11

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day 16-18 transplanting

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also begon on the nutians on 1/4 strenges and some light foila feet

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ups .. cat also looking forword to fist haverst ;)


day 22-23 the one is LST
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ps also just got a used 600W HPS with a brand new philips sun master sumthing (2100K I belive like 90k lumens or so)

couldnt say no as I got it for like 100$ with bulb balast hangers and evrything guess I could use it in late flowering .. like last 4 weeks or so to get nice dense plants ..

would also give me the option to either use the 6 t5 bulbs for either side lighting or maybe to start up a new veg room .. if I can find space anywher ?? sumthing to think about .. but atlest have to find out sumthing with ventilation I guess .. before flowering ..

dunno if I can keep temp. down with 600W HPS in ther ? even with all ventilatos on the light ?

maby go co2 ? but then agin I have to get a seald room for sure
(tho I allready tryd out the diy co2 had some yeat and sugar and some tubeings from work and some old bottels .. work nicely .. a bubbel evry 2n seccon or so .. after a hour .. tho I dunno how much co2 it actualy makes .. but it was funn to see it work ..

what do you Ppl. think ?

600w HPS in room wher it is like 72-74F can a normal big table vent. keep it under 80-85F ? if pointet directly at it ?

and what about distance ?

or am I better off keeping my T5HO 49W and just changes 2 more 6500K bulbs to 2700K for flowering as I can keep them at 1-4 inches away
atlest untill I get a better room/vent or a cool tube is I can make one to fit ?

and what about the diy co2 system ? is it enough if room are seald ? or am I better off with fresh air and the co2 I make ?


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plz tell me what you think ? and plz ask any questions or ask for more pictures I can easily add more if needed ..

would also like to know how long Ppl. normaly veg. indica/kush plants .. soon entering my 5 week since germination
 
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