first outdoor grow

ladyburn

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hi everyone,

i was just introduced to this forum, thought i'd get some pics up. this is my first grow, outside, as i have had a few unsuccessful attempts indoors.
i just wanted some feedback from more experienced growers.

this is a C4, not a very common strand i dont think. its about a month 1/2 old, was planted in my yard at maybe a week old. ive been feeding it Pure Blend Pro (veg formula) for about 2.5 weeks, every few days.
its growing very fast and strong, although there are holes in some of the leaves (prob from insects)

this pic is from maybe two days ago, and the plants grown quite a bit since

any thoughts?
also i have a few questions, if i was to clone, when would be a good time? and are those holes in the leaves actually a cause for alarm?
 

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GrowRebel

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Hi there ....:hump:

.... this is my first outdoor grow too ..... I'm very excited .... I planted it ..... clone .....a month ago an it's already 3ft ..... never had a plant bigger than that, but I'm about to! .... I grow indoors and have limited headroom ... where I have them I figure I can let them get about 4ft, then bend and let it branch out .... :joint:
.... I've got the holes in the leaves too .... bugs that like pot unfoutunately ..... when they start killing leaves get some dishwatching liquid and make a lot of suds then spray the suds on the plant, then after a minute or two rinse them off, this will get rid of pest .....
... keep an eye on them, and repeat when needed .... do it first light, or an couple of hours before nightfall.:mrgreen:

Good luck and here's to the fall. :hump: :peace:
 

foily

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looks a lot like mine. very big and fat leaves.. i have 6 plants. all between 2 and 4 feet tall.

 

MRbudsmoker

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welcome ladyburn! lovely healthy plant. but nodes are far apart. is it in a sunny place all day or in the shade. only it seems long and thin
 

ladyburn

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thanks for the feedback and support guys, much appreciated.

good thought growrebel about using dishwashing detergent for the bugs, ive heard of that before and dont think it'd be too harmfull as dishsoap is quite gentle, but im wondering, is it effective? and it is harmless right, i wont kill my plant if i was to try that?

thanks mrbudsmoker, and youre right the nodes are far apart i believe its because it was around taller plants so it needed to stretch a bit. the new leaves however are much closer together. its not fully in the sun there are times during the day there is shade but it still gets plenty of light. it does look a little long and thin but hopefully it'll be alright still
foily, nice pics, and good luck to the rest of you on your grows :)
 

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ladyburn

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silly question probably but is there any way of limiting the height of this plant? its getting rather tall and its only maybe 2 months tops
 

karmaxul

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Ladyburn - Looking good. Here are my thoughts on PBP.

PBP (Pure Blend Pro) - Fish meal, composted sea bird guano, sea kelp, spirulina, soybean protein extract, rock phosphate, potassium carbonate, magnesium carbonate, calcium carbonate, humic acid*, fulvic acid*, citric acid*, raw sugar cane*, Agrimineral 72 (silica clay extract)*, amino acids*, B-complex vitamins*, and select botanical plant extracts*.

This worries me a bit.

GH put out mad chemie shit up until it was in fashion to grow quality and not quantity. I am not into killing fish to grow plants as the earth suffers as a hole. The guano is great source of nitrogen. Urea is basically ammonium nitrogen which gets converted by the bacteria ( who feed off carbohydrates (raw sugar cane)) into ammonium nitrate which is the form plants use for nitrogen. The soy would up the specific gravity of the mix allowing gypsum which is not water solube to be used as a pH adjuster instead of lime (calcium oxide) which kills bacteria needed to convert the N cycle among other things. The rock phosphate is junk as it is a mined element with long half much like synthetics though not radioactive. Magnesium as seen in epsom salt (MgSO4) can combine with N under a pH of 5.8 however it is not needed. Calcium carbonate is mined. Humic acid has a half life measured in centuries and fulvic acid's half life is 40 years. I dig citric acid as a chealting agent however should not be needed if pur organics are used such as guano and kelp. The raw sugar cane does increase the microbs as mentioned prior which can also decrease nemotoid growth among other benefical things. Agrimineral 72 (silica clay extract)I have heard increase yeilds from worms way and some cali growers though I and not interested in wieght as it lowers thc content, has a long half life and I dont see any benefit of smoking it or see how the flavor would benefit. Bacterial source amino acids really are a bit complicated though basically they are strings of elements in balance, protiens and vitamins. B-complex vitamins are essentially auxins which produce compact growth and select botanical plant extracts may be good and may not. Saying urea and ammonium nitrate are bad on there site make me think it is the us gov who get off on tricking people so they can tell them selves they are smart. I dont trust it though it is better then the chemie shit of the past so what can I really say
 

karmaxul

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I like Earth Juice Grow and Maxicrop seaweeds flakes (the liquid breaks down fast) and a couple ppm of thrive alive green with a dash of seasalt.

Seasalt is the only source of Br, element 35. Br is a main component of tryptophans which produce auxins and cytokinins. B vitamins are basiclly auxins and d vitamins cytokinins. Auxin have blue color, notice the size of blueberries and cytokinins have a yellow hue, bananas. Auxins produce compact cell growth or compact node growth in plants where cytokinins produce cell elongation.

For the soil earth worm castings and bat guano with the highest N and lowest P values with some mycellium fungi
 
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