First EVER grow. Let me know what you think.

ak90

Active Member
First of all, when i went out and brought my gear 2 months ago my Main rule of thumb i had was to grow with simplicity, and keep it that way with future grows. As far as yield is concerned as its my first outting in this game im aiming low, into the 2-3 oz range so lets see how it goes. Enjoy :-P

Okay so heres my Setup...

Coco Coir Medium.
20L Pots
Drainage


Nutes:
SensiGrow A+B
SensiBloom A+B
Grandma Enggys F1+H2
Sensizyme
CalMag


Lighting:
Sunmaster HPS Bulb
600W DigitalSun 110% Lumen Dimmable Ballast
Mantis Pro Reflector
200W CFL


Air Con:
6" Extractor
6" Carbon Filter
Circulating PowerPlus Fan.


1200Lx1200Wx2000H(cm) Grow Tent.
800x800 DIY Veg Box.
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Feedings: I'm Feeding every day apart from 7th day which i just water without Nutes.

Veg:
Weeks 1,2,3 - 1L water, 2ml of Sensigrow A+B
Week 4 - 2L water, 3ml of Sensigrow A+B, 2ml of CalMag
Week 5 - 2L water, 5ml of SensiGrow A+B, 5ml of CalMag
Week 6 - 2L water, 7.5ml of SensiGrow A+B, 5ml of CalMag
Week 7 - 4L water, 10ml of SensiGrow A+B, 7.5ml of CalMag
Week 8 - 4L water, 10ml of SensiGrow A+B, 7,5ml of CalMag, 5ml of Grandma Enggys F2

Flower:
To Follow.


Okay so heres the plants.
The strain i was told was Kali Kush, i received them just as they rooted as clones.
Ive had a look about on the web and couldnt find the strain Kali Kush, but as i have no clue to as what they are im gonna stick with Kali Kush lol, i know they are 100% Indica.


Anyway i didnt take many pics from 1-6 weeks as they are slightly borings but heres a few from week 3-6.
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Okay so them pictures are from weeks 3 through to end of week 6.
As i changed to HPS at week 3 i noticed a dramatic difference, to all growing with CFL they is so much more you can achieve with HPS
Anyway, i gradually increased the nutrients and water going in, and still had 15% run off. Ive pH'd my water+nutes at 5.8 throughout the whole process. So heres some pictures from the final 2 Weeks of Veg.

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ak90

Active Member
Week 8 To follow as im on my final week of Veg now i will trigger them at the end of this week, and i will be taking a few more photos between now and the 2 weeks of stretch after i trigger. Stay tunes for the updates :weed: .... LOL

Peace all
AK
:joint:
 

ak90

Active Member
Cheers bro, im hoping they stay bushy through the next 3 weeks. I pruned about 5-10% off the bottoms yesterday, to try free up some energy for the next 3 weeks.
Do you have any experience with trimming the bottoms? & do you know if it shocks the plant/stunts its growth temp?
Once again cheers for stopping by Peace
AK
Lookin Great Man!
 

ak90

Active Member
Okay on the 4th i planted 4 Choclope DNA Gen Seeds & 1 Blueberry Cheese..
They all sprouted 24 hours later using the simple method, using coco heavily saturating with 1/4 strength nutes (using SensiGrow A+B) and planting the seeds 1/2 inch under the coco and putting them under a 200w CFL on 24/24, humidity around 30% temps 75-80F
1 Day from Seed
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3 Days from Seed
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After they sprouted i carried on feeding them daily with 1/4 strength nutes..

1 Week from Seed.
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11 Days from Seed.
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As i didnt expect all of them to sprout i only wanted 2 to be growing, so i gave away 2 to my mate as a favor.

After a week, i noticed the Blue Cheese first set of leaves were wilting, i repotted her, and washed the roots as i found some fungus in the pot, her growth dramatically stunted, and this morning i finally put her out of her misery and disposed of her. R.I.P ..

Anyway that loss gives me more time to concentrate on my other 2 as they seem like good Gens with decent growth so far, so i repotted them into larger pots. (as you can see in the pic, the Blue Cheese had took a turn for the worse as she was the larger one to start with)

13 Days from Seed.
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14 Days from Seed
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I am planning to Top these, and do some LST on them.

I will be updating as i go along with these too in this thread so keep and eye out for them :-)

Cheers AK
 

ak90

Active Member
Okay so as i said its the 7 day count down to flower now.
Ive topped and Trimmed the bottoms over the last week and they seem great still.

Feeding hasnt changed from my chart up above.

Misty is standing at 20" tall and Smokeys at 17".

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Im debating wether to Trigger them now? Or wait the extra 7 days? What do you guys think.. Give me some feed back!

God Bless AK
 

Ghettobird209

Active Member
lol im in the same exact situation as you are bro! im on my last week of veg (6th) and about 4-5days ago I transplanted to bigger pots, topped one more time around some spots and im trying to decided either to wait a couple more days to flip it, or to just do it tonight :P
 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
First of all, when i went out and brought my gear 2 months ago my Main rule of thumb i had was to grow with simplicity, and keep it that way with future grows. As far as yield is concerned as its my first outting in this game im aiming low, into the 2-3 oz range so lets see how it goes. Enjoy :-P

Okay so heres my Setup...

Coco Coir Medium.
20L Pots
Drainage


Nutes:
SensiGrow A+B
SensiBloom A+B
Grandma Enggys F1+H2
Sensizyme
CalMag


Lighting:
Sunmaster HPS Bulb
600W DigitalSun 110% Lumen Dimmable Ballast
Mantis Pro Reflector
200W CFL


Air Con:
6" Extractor
6" Carbon Filter
Circulating PowerPlus Fan.


1200Lx1200Wx2000H(cm) Grow Tent.
800x800 DIY Veg Box.
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Feedings: I'm Feeding every day apart from 7th day which i just water without Nutes.

Veg:
Weeks 1,2,3 - 1L water, 2ml of Sensigrow A+B
Week 4 - 2L water, 3ml of Sensigrow A+B, 2ml of CalMag
Week 5 - 2L water, 5ml of SensiGrow A+B, 5ml of CalMag
Week 6 - 2L water, 7.5ml of SensiGrow A+B, 5ml of CalMag
Week 7 - 4L water, 10ml of SensiGrow A+B, 7.5ml of CalMag
Week 8 - 4L water, 10ml of SensiGrow A+B, 7,5ml of CalMag, 5ml of Grandma Enggys F2

Flower:
To Follow.


Okay so heres the plants.
The strain i was told was Kali Kush, i received them just as they rooted as clones.
Ive had a look about on the web and couldnt find the strain Kali Kush, but as i have no clue to as what they are im gonna stick with Kali Kush lol, i know they are 100% Indica.


Anyway i didnt take many pics from 1-6 weeks as they are slightly borings but heres a few from week 3-6.
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Okay so them pictures are from weeks 3 through to end of week 6.
As i changed to HPS at week 3 i noticed a dramatic difference, to all growing with CFL they is so much more you can achieve with HPS
Anyway, i gradually increased the nutrients and water going in, and still had 15% run off. Ive pH'd my water+nutes at 5.8 throughout the whole process. So heres some pictures from the final 2 Weeks of Veg.

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Nice plants bud, lookin good I'm subbed..
 

ak90

Active Member
Yeah i had that 2 weeks ago. I switched to 12/12 for a day and switched back again as i thought i should give them another 2 weeks. You got some pics up il have a look man peace brother
 

ak90

Active Member
Yeah man nice one rikenstein. Hopefully she will blow out over the next few weeks :) hows your babies doin mate?
 

ak90

Active Member
Cheers Kodak. My mates just pulled 24oz off 4 of these kush plants. Im gettin proper impatiant man. But ill hang on!
 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
Yeah man nice one rikenstein. Hopefully she will blow out over the next few weeks :) hows your babies doin mate?
Found an article on neem oil you should check out, you can water your plants with it (they love it!!) and it gets inside the plant and bugs won't go near it...it takes about 1-2 weeks for it to start working but I'm seeing a dif already...NO BUGS..Hallelujah!! and new growth!!! Thanx for askin..:hug:

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ak90

Active Member
Im using a product called gnat off ive used it once and tmmz im gonna use again. Ive noticed alot of them have gone theres just one or two more to get rid off. So fingers crossed il get rid of the little fuckers.
 

RIKNSTEIN

Well-Known Member
Gona highjack ur thread man...lol...this is what I found about neem, not only is it cheap, 20 bucks for about a years supply, but it completely organic and the plant sucks it up like a nute...here check it out..


Neem Oil
Neem oil does work, but the way it works is different from other insecticides. Neem is not an instant, knock down,kill everything pesticide. Neem oil affects insects in many different,ingenious and subtle ways.
How neem oil messes with the insects’ brains and bodies
Neem oil has many complex active ingredients. Rather than being simple poisons, those ingredients are similar to the hormones that insects produce. Insects take up the neem oil ingredients just like natural hormones.
Neem enters the system and blocks thereal hormones from working properly. Insects “forget” to eat, to mate, or they stop laying eggs. Some forget that they can fly. If eggs are produced they don’t hatch, or the larvae don’t moult.
Obviously insects that are too confused to eat or breed will not survive. The population eventually plummets, and they disappear. The cycle is broken.
How precisely it works is difficult for scientists to find out. There are too many different active substances in neem oil, and every insect species reacts differently to neem insecticide. Neem oil does not hurt beneficial insects. Only chewing and sucking insects are affected. It is certainly fascinating.
Like real hormones, neem oil insecticide works at very low concentrations, in the parts per million range. A little neem oil goes a long way.
But this is not something that happens over night. People use neem oil as an insecticide, and expect everything to die instantly, because that’s what they are used to from chemical poisons. Whenthat does not happen they conclude neem insecticide does not work.
How neem oil deters chewing and sucking insects
There is a nice story that demonstrates how grasshoppers react to neem oil insecticide. It goes something like this: Someone did an experiment. It involved two jars, two leaves, and two grasshoppers. One leaf was sprayed with a chemical insecticide, and one with neem oil. The two grasshoppers were put in the two jars, with one leaf each.
The first grasshopper ate the leaf and died almost instantly. The grasshopper with the neem oil covered leaf did not touch the leaf and lived. At least for a few days. Eventually it starved to death.
Neem stops insects from eating the plants.
Part of this action is due to to the hormone like action of neem oil that I explained above. Insects “forget” to eat after they’ve been in contact with even traces of neem oil.
But it is also the presence, the merehint of a smell of neem oil, that seems to be enough to keep leaf eating insects away. Neem oil can be very powerful as an anti-feedant and insect repellent.
This anti-feedant property is one of the most often advertised and lauded properties of neem oil insecticide. However, the hormonal effects I described above are even stronger.
Neem oil as an insect deterrent works well against grasshoppers and leafhoppers, but all other insect pests are controlled mostly through the hormone action.
The subtlety of the hormonal effects, and the fact that they may take days or weeks to manifest, makes people overlook them. Ill informed gardeners seek instant gratification, i.e. lots of dead insects immediately, rather than a balanced environment in the long run.
It’s a shame, because the hormonal effect is where the real power of neem oil lies. It’s the key to neem oil beingan effective insecticide and good for the environment at the same time. It’s also important to understand this effect to use neem oil insecticide correctly.
Neem oil works from inside the plant
Many insecticides break down quickly.They wash away with rain, or when irrigating, or the sunlight destroys them.You either have to spray all the time, or you have to spray something that’s so stable that it stays around forever. That means the chemical builds up everywhere and eventually poisons everything, including you.
Neem oil breaks down very quickly, too. It is especially susceptible to UV light. But neem oil is also a systemic insecticide. That means you can pour it on the soil (not pure neem oil of course, you use a dilution or extract) and the plants absorb it. They take it up into their tissue, and it works from the inside. A leaf hopper may take acouple of bites, but that’s it.
However, this does not work for all insect species. The neem ingredients accumulate in the tissues deeper inside the plant. The phloem, the outermost layer, contains hardly any. A tiny aphid feeds from the phloem, it can not penetrate deep enough to get a dose of neem. But any leaf hoppers, grass hoppers or similar chomping insects will be incapacitated quickly.
People eat neem leaves to cleanse the blood, stimulate the liver, and boost the immune system. So we certainly don’t need to worry about a bit of neem inside our lettuce leaves. To me this is a much more attractive option than having poisonous foulicides build up in mygarden.
Neem oil suffocates insects
Many gardeners use white oil (plain mineral oil) or even olive oil to combat soft bodied insects like aphids,thrips or whitefly. The oil coats the bugs and they suffocate. Neem oil insecticide does that as well. But it’s more like a little bonus on top of everything else it does.
It can be a hazard, though. Of course there is no difference between suffocating good or bad bugs. Oil suffocates anything. So this aspect can harm beneficial insects!
Neem oil and beneficial insects
Neem is non toxic for beneficial insects. The main reason is that insects need to ingest the neem oil to be affected, and beneficial insects don’t eat your plants. But you can still kill beneficial insects if you smother them with neem oil, so please be careful.
Beneficial insects are most active during the day. The best time to spray neem insecticide is very early in the morning, so the spray can dry before the good insects become active. Also a good time is the late afternoon or evening. Once the spray has dried it does not harm your bees, ladybugs, lacewings, predatory mites and wasps etc.

thought this was a good read so I shared..
 
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