faster rooting clones.

anhedonia

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Ive read that smaller clones taken from the bottom of the plant will root faster because it has all the newer hormones where as the top of the plant has all the old ones. Any experience with this?
 

MrFishy

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Yeah, I'm not sure "smaller" clones from the bottom is all that great. That's where, and how, I'm mainly taking mine and they're certainly not setting any rooting records.
So basically, decent sized clones taken from the bottom might work real good. I mean, I've gotten them so short I could barely hold them to work with. The hormone thing may apply, but I also suspect the lower growth to be the least desirable at harvest time, and thus, perfect clone fodder.
 

anhedonia

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I acctually read that in my jorge cervantes growers bible. I was just wondering because I havnt seen anything that could attest to those claims. Im buying an aeroponc daisy cloner tomorrow and I think I'll take bottom and top clones and see which roots fastest. I have had only 1 nice rooted picture perfect clone out of 25 trys. So the auto cloner should suit my needsjust fine. I'll be working with a new strain this time and Im hoping it will be easier to clone than these orange bud. I just couldnt seem to keep them healthy for some reason. Now I have a shitload of yellowing clones that are stunted. But some seem to be growing but look sickly.
And have you heard that smaller clones root faster than larger ones?
 

MrFishy

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Yeah, you know how it is. Some strains can break off at the ground and be stuck back in the ground with just a slowdown (and some fresh root stuff) and others are just wimpy and shrivel if you breathe on 'em too often!

I don't recall the actual physical size of the clones taken from the bottom being mentioned in whatever I read. I just know that I took some way small and they did not burst forth with new growth, but did eventually root, in peat-pellets, with Shultz Root stuff. I've recently realized that the clipping of the larger leaves on the cutting is more important than I had thought, in hastening rooting.
 

nathenking

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Ive also heard that. I think tho that the method in which you clone is gonna give you a better success rate. good luck with everything peace
 

anhedonia

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Got my clones in the daisy cloner. Feel free to check out my grow in my signature...... No one else does. But I got pics of the cloner and the new cuttings.
 

Landragon

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It is absolutely true. The further from the shoot tip the lower concentration of vegetative hormones. I always find smaller shoots from lower branches root the fastest. These often have tiny stems and are less vigorous once rooted. The extra few days of time saved rooting, doesn't compute to gains when you factor in the extra time needed to build up a strong foundation. It's fine if you plan to veg a while but, bigger shoots fend well going straight into flower.
 

anhedonia

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thank you! In fact I was just noticing how my cuttings taken from wider stems seem to look healthier and grow faster than the smaller bottom clones. My new cuttings were all taken from the bottom of the plant and so far so good after 4 days. Theyre mall but are standing up no drooping and theyre as green and healthy as when I took them off the mom. Week 1 is kind of easy but Ive always found that week 2 is when care and maintnence and competent growing skills is essential. My clones wouldnt root until 14 days and they grow roots but dont grow above. Its weird. I hope this daisy thing works. Its hard to have optimism when you have just about a 10% success rate out of 20 clones.
 

hugetom80s

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I never really subscribed much to the idea that where you took your cuttings from on the plant made a lot of difference on how fast the rooting would happen. I tried a little unscientific experiment with my last batch of clones, keeping track of which ones came from where.

I couldn't find any rhyme or reason to which ones rooted the fastest. All of them were cut and treated the same (using Juicy Roots rooting gel) and no group seemed any faster than the others.

Maybe it was just the Juicy Roots that leveled the playing field, I don't know. That might be worth trying for yourself especially if you have trouble cloning. I noticed a huge improvement in my success rate and rooting speed just by switching to Juicy Roots. (I haven't lost a single cutting since I switched and my rooting times are a full day or two faster than they used to be.)
 
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