Extrasensory Perception - ESP

HeatlessBBQ

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do any of you believe that while under the influence of a psychoactive substance that there is a higher chance of ESP to occur???

have any of you experienced telepathy?

do you believe there is a connection between the sober human psyche to the psychoactive human psyche?

when I am thinking about someone, are they thinking about me at the same, exact time?

there are ways to test this but you will never be able to prove it.

you can only believe...:blsmoke:
 

Karmapuff

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Well not to sound like a nutt case but i do believe in this and achieving something like this even without using psychoactive substances.
I can tune myself into some ones inner black matter which reacts with thoughts, and i can read it almost like a bar code. My whole life i have been reading peoples thoughts and surprisingly getting most right but only if there open to it and allow me in. They need to think clear about what they want me to see so i can enter without seeing just a cloudy mess of blackness.

The best way to start out is to get another person tell them to think as clear as possible, tell them to think of a number between 1-10. Tell he or she to close there eyes and picture the number they have chosen, they will need to picture the number in there mind as the color white and in bold (help's alot)
He or she will need to present this number to you.
Now you close your eyes, focus on seeking into there blackness and tunnle your way through the cloudy electrons. The hardest part is interrupting the blackness and finding what the other person is presenting. It will come to you.

Hopefully that didn't sound crazy for some people but its worth giving a few shots! I have surprised alot of people with this ability not just finding numbers but also other complex mental artifacts.
 

JealousGreen

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I'm certain of the validity of psychic powers being amplified while on psychadelics. I have participated in this phenomenon on more than one occasion. On a few occasions with more than 2 other people at the same time. once in a dreamI was drawn into an intense psychadelic landscape with one of the individuals that I did the most exploration with. We met on an apocalyptic battle field where we were leading forces of two seperate armies toward a conflict with one another. we met in the fury of the battle. both of us are "lucid dreamers" so it wasn't difficult to see the devastation we were inflicting on the masses around us. at the point that I realized who was leading the other force I woke up in a cold sweat. The following day I found out that my friend experienced the same dream from his side of the field, the sky was even the same bright orange color in his dream. We were fairly certain that we woke up at the exact same time. Thinking about it still gives me chills.
 

Tym

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Yeah, that sounds crazy.. What people perceive as ESP and telepathy is nothing more than chemical imbalances. It has be shown in many many studies and even meta studies, with controls and confirmation with peer review, that ESP and telepathy failed to produce a significant deviation from that of random chance.

So, as far as science and reality can tell. There is no difference between ESP/Telepathy and guessing. To me they are the same.
 

Tym

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I'm certain of the validity of psychic powers being amplified while on psychadelics. I have participated in this phenomenon on more than one occasion. On a few occasions with more than 2 other people at the same time. once in a dreamI was drawn into an intense psychadelic landscape with one of the individuals that I did the most exploration with. We met on an apocalyptic battle field where we were leading forces of two seperate armies toward a conflict with one another. we met in the fury of the battle. both of us are "lucid dreamers" so it wasn't difficult to see the devastation we were inflicting on the masses around us. at the point that I realized who was leading the other force I woke up in a cold sweat. The following day I found out that my friend experienced the same dream from his side of the field, the sky was even the same bright orange color in his dream. We were fairly certain that we woke up at the exact same time. Thinking about it still gives me chills.
Sounds like a trip, but how is that "psychic powers"?
 

Karmapuff

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I love dreams, It's always a treat to have a free trip your brain gives you in rem sleep. I have had some psychic experiences after dreaming they are rare but always leave me thinking for days. Sometimes I think the dream world matter more then this physical reality.
 
I always seem to have this experience when smoking mary. Every time I seem to know exactly what other people are thinking and feeling. I attribute it to being able to more accurately read body language. For some reason mary just brings that ability out in me.
 

Karmapuff

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I always seem to have this experience when smoking mary. Every time I seem to know exactly what other people are thinking and feeling. I attribute it to being able to more accurately read body language. For some reason mary just brings that ability out in me.
I know what you mean! I was at a party the other day went outside to smoke a joint came back inside and my attraction to everyone was changed every little movement of someones body was spoken like a language and its more easy to read once you get high. I noticed this guy all night he was normal to everyone else but something about him wasn't right later that night he started crying (he got pretty drunk) and left for some reason =/
 
I know what you mean! I was at a party the other day went outside to smoke a joint came back inside and my attraction to everyone was changed every little movement of someones body was spoken like a language and its more easy to read once you get high. I noticed this guy all night he was normal to everyone else but something about him wasn't right later that night he started crying (he got pretty drunk) and left for some reason =/
Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I was going to say how we are speaking all the time, even when we aren't vocalizing. To be honest, that's one thing I don't like about m.j. Everyone always seems to have something dark hidden underneath. I'd rather not see that. But since I have noticed this occurring I seem to be able to block it out a bit easier. I just tell myself that either I'm just crazy from being high, or that there's no sense in worrying about others thoughts too much.
 

Rodart Cockburn

New Member
To me, the phenomena known as ESP is a placebo. The only way it could take place is if you refute determinism. In my world view, dominated by science and fractals, there is no abnormal occurrences in the human experience. What you view as 'telepathy' is merely you reacting to a universal variable that permeates all levels of nature. I do admit when high, on any number of substances, the active conscious part of us seems to be better able at seeking patterns and relating to them, but as far as reading another persons mind, its not possible in the classical sense because both of us are wired into the same universal variable and determined world and as such share everything to the smallest aspect.

Fractals are able to tie non-locality to classical sciences.

Peace
 
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