ebb flow vs dwc vs aeroponics

let just say the conditions are 100% ph,temp,co2,nutes, light all good.
wich will give you the best yield? or does it come down to what you find easy to do or like best.

i believe its aero > DWC = Ebb (maybe DWC > Ebb?)

Aero- constant nutes with maximum oxygen = winner winner chicken dinner

Like dbizzo said aero is the way to go, with lots of oxygen.

cool thanks guys

understand its also the least forgiving, i built and aerocloner and my pump died. i noticed it dead within 18-24 hours of it dying and in that time all my little girls died.

sparks662 said:

understand its also the least forgiving, i built and aerocloner and my pump died. i noticed it dead within 18-24 hours of it dying and in that time all my little girls died.

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this is the downfall...

I have seen some really nice Ebb n Flo results as with DWC, and EVEN soil/soiless mix can be amazing results if done right.. and that's the key..

DWC you need tons of small air bulbs.. if you can;t get good air pumps for the amount of buckets then don;t bother..

A nice Ebb and flo system with dual pump system.. incase of a failiure.. that would be nice..

Aero IF it is a large tube or a very well aerated reservoir small tube, followed by ebb and flow and lastly the DWC. If the reservoir water is not very well aerated on the small tube aero the efficiency plunges once the root mass gains size. Roots laying in low DO water die quickly. Even with high DO water the fact still remains that even cool water holds only small amounts of DO and the oxygen diffuses poorly. A small tube aero can actually perform worse than a DWC if the root mass is large, the water flow slow and the water DO low in the tubes. Many aero tube systems perform worse than ebb and flow system once the plants gain some age the ebb and flow systems maintain better root masses then the sad roots in a poor small tube aero system. Lots and lots of small tube aeros with nasty, rotting, brown roots towards harvest time or even earlier. You will find quite a few hair roots on mature plant roots in an ebb and flow system, very few if any in a small tube aero system.

A DWC is also very dependent on unnaturally high reservoir DO and no water can hold large amounts of DO and nearly the entire mass of the roots in the DWC system area entirely in the water. A large tube eliminates most of the problem of roots laying in low DO water A deep chamber aero eliminated the problem of DO all together and the level of the DO in the reservoir really has little effect on the amount of O2 taken in by the roots. An Ebb and Flow is limited through the fact that most ebb and flow have fairly small air pore space so oxygen is more limited than in aero system. An ebb and flow is not dependent to any large degree on high DO reservoir water however, unless there are rock wool systems that tend to become water logged the rock wool as they drain well.

ok best thing to do would be aero with big roots chamber and good inclination on a sog. also i dont understand what you mean by "do"

Give me E&F - IM Happier than a dog in a hub cap factory

eza82 said:

Give me E&F - IM Happier than a dog in a hub cap factory

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I agree...

While it may not be the Ferrari of the grow world... it is no slouch either...

Ebb Flow is a Lazy stoner's best friend...

coco + e&b = As happy as a worm in a can on the way home from a fishing trip
[and the lazy lazy man setup]

hmmm i wont say that many other systems "other than e&b or variations of it" on a grander scale are about as useful as a fart in a hurricane

nice setup. the thing is im looking for the best system for best yield dont care about how much work it takes. so yes ferrari all the way lol

rtl231 said:

ok best thing to do would be aero with big roots chamber and good inclination on a sog. also i dont understand what you mean by "do"

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im pretty sure DO is dissolved oxygen, and how many grows do u have under your belt? i understand u want the ferrari as every man in life does. but u dont want to start racing a ferarri if you have little racing exp.

and gypsybush, your ladies are gorgeous!! what is the white plastic looking cover you have over the pots?

sparks662 said:

and gypsybush, your ladies are gorgeous!! what is the white plastic looking cover you have over the pots?

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Thanks bro!

And the white plastic is panda film... it reflects light back up to the girls while covering the medium and the trays, thus avoiding Algae and other problems...

Deep chamber aero is about the easiest system to run and also the highest yielding. It is basically just aero but with height for your roots to hang so they are not laying in water. As you gain some time, money and experience bump up to high pressure aero or air atomized aero in deep chambers and run drain to waste. Figure a deep chamber as any chamber over 18" inches deep. Preferably 24" or more.

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/254876-my-true-hp-aero-plug.html

thank for the info guys

just built ebb&flow [2nd hydro grow ]& planted jan. 18 turned light 12/12 last night plants avg. 16''-20'' tall i feel this is the set-up for me i guess everyone has their prefered method & this so-far is mine it seems low-tech & dependable i'm using 6'' rockwool blocks & 2'' matting & flood every saturday [or maybe more often as larger plants pull more out of the rockwool] i use drain to waste i mix nutes 4 hrs. in advance & let them aeriate& circulate in res. then feed &drain & the little bit thats left over goes out to my yard no res. temp or ph. problems this way. the hardest thing for me is the ''hands-off'' part because im used to fussing over my plants & ebb&flow [rockwool] once set-up is truly the lazy-mans way & so- far my favorite but if you see a method you like then by all means do some research & make it happen thats really what its all about & there is plenty of guidence available on this site good luck h.h.