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ebb and flow sog, goal: 64oz every 30 days

bdt1981

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Ok so been working up to this and finally we made it. There are 64 cuts on a 48 site clone machin. They are from boss hogg, goji og, og kush (hso),chemdawg (hso) jack desiel and critical+. Pics are mothers in veg clone machine full, 4x4 at 30 days and 2 2x4 just flipped.
 

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bdt1981

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Yes multiple strains on same table. Always have and never had a problem til I tried Lucas formula. Saw some deficient leaves and switched to the 3 part cutting edge nutes. Follow directions on the bottle. Seems to be doing well.
 
superstoner1

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Nice set up but i just don't see 4 pounds every 30 days. I pull 2 pounds every 21 days from my rail set up with much bigger plants. Give us some more room info
 
GandalfdaGreen

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Looks great. I am going to sit back and learn with this one. Thanks for posting it up. I hope you have a great grow that's smooth. I just set up my first hydro grow ever about an hour ago. I have a small hydrofarm megagarden that I want to play around with. I am running some clones with AN. I hope I don't kill them. Do you hand water your clones for awhile?
 
bdt1981

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superstoner1 said:
Nice set up but i just don't see 4 pounds every 30 days. I pull 2 pounds every 21 days from my rail set up with much bigger plants. Give us some more room info
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Well I was hoping to hit 1 oz per clone. That's 64 ounces per 4x4. We aim high. It's just a goal to work for.
As for our room. It's 9x18 we have 2 2x4 tables and 1 4x4 in flower. 2 1thousand watt digital galaxy and 2 400's 1hp water chilled water cooling the 1000's with ice box heat exchangers and a coil in each res keeping the temp around 65. Magnum xxxl hoods for the 2 1ks. Dehumidifier and window unit ac. Co2 and sintinel chhc4 controller. Temp runs 83 to 88 humidity around 49% co2 ppm 1400. Fed 5 times a day seperate res for each 4x4 area..
We will upgrade to a ucxl 12 within 6 months and reach for pound and a half to 2 pounds every 2 and a half months. This is all just goals but we plan on meeting them.
 
bdt1981

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Yes hand water with a pump until they start to show signs of coming out of transplant. Then still like to top water one time a day until its so thick you can't do it any more.
 
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cool ill following this one, As i to am just setting up a system where can pull something hopefully every 3 weeks.
 
Alaric

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bdt1981 said:
Well I was hoping to hit 1 oz per clone. That's 64 ounces per 4x4. We aim high. It's just a goal to work for.
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4 lbs from a 4x4 space is not possible with artifical lighting---wish it was. Anything over 2lbs per 1K in 60 days consistantly is world class IMO. Only way I will ever believe 3lbs per 1k is if I manicure, dry and weight it myself. I pull an average 14 Zs every 7days with 4x1Ks in my flower room using 8x10' pvc tubes filled with 3' to 5' plants. That's 7lbs every 60 days with 4x1Ks----I can live with that.

Best of luck and stay safe,

A~~~
 
bdt1981

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Alaric said:
4 lbs from a 4x4 space is not possible with artifical lighting---wish it was. Anything over 2lbs per 1K in 60 days consistantly is world class IMO. Only way I will ever believe 3lbs per 1k is if I manicure, dry and weight it myself. I pull an average 14 Zs every 7days with 4x1Ks in my flower room using 8x10' pvc tubes filled with 3' to 5' plants. That's 7lbs every 60 days with 4x1Ks----I can live with that.
well its a thhousand and a 400 per 4x4 on an earlier post guy said sog with 3 weeks veg lollie popped 5
Oz per sf
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Alaric

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bdt1981 said:
Alaric said:
4 lbs from a 4x4 space is not possible with artifical lighting---wish it was. Anything over 2lbs per 1K in 60 days consistantly is world class IMO. Only way I will ever believe 3lbs per 1k is if I manicure, dry and weight it myself. I pull an average 14 Zs every 7days with 4x1Ks in my flower room using 8x10' pvc tubes filled with 3' to 5' plants. That's 7lbs every 60 days with 4x1Ks----I can live with that.

well its a thhousand and a 400 per 4x4 on an earlier post guy said sog with 3 weeks veg lollie popped 5
Oz per sf
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If I read you correctly?-----1.4k over a 4'x4' canopy?

Reason I'm so sceptable is because I've seen just how much space is required of a 4'x4' canopy yielding 2lbs under an air-cooled 1k on a mover about 18" above the plant tops.
It's a space requirement issue.
help me if I missed something.

let's see-----5 oz per square foot times 16 sq ft = 80 ozs or 5lbs.

Too funny----best one i've heard in long time

A~~~
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bdt1981

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So your callling the guy who said that a liar. i think1oz per clone is not out of re ach. So if u think thats out of reach there is no way ill get 20 pounds on an undercurrent 12 site evvery 2and a hhalf months? U shouldnt be so stuck up and so negative.
 
Alaric

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bdt1981 said:
So your callling the guy who said that a liar. i think1oz per clone is not out of re ach. So if u think thats out of reach there is no way ill get 20 pounds on an undercurrent 12 site evvery 2and a hhalf months? U shouldnt be so stuck up and so negative.
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Now that's not being very civil is it?

Just expressing my opinion based on my experience-----I truly hope to be proven wrong----so rock on with your quest.

I don't like to call people liars----extremely doubtful.

My I ask how much experience you have?

A~~~
 
superstoner1

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I can tell you now i have run aero/hydro for years and i harvest 12 plants every three weeks and there is 3000 watts for 36 plants and my best harvest is 42 ounces. I have a strain now that may put me at the 3 pound mark soon but my average harvest is around 34oz. This is after many, many harvests, well over 1200 plants and close to 60 different strains( not to mention phenos). Plus i veg my plants. I just dont see what you are expecting unless you get the miracle strain.
 
bdt1981

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superstoner1 said:
I can tell you now i have run aero/hydro for years and i harvest 12 plants every three weeks and there is 3000 watts for 36 plants and my best harvest is 42 ounces. I have a strain now that may put me at the 3 pound mark soon but my average harvest is around 34oz. This is after many, many harvests, well over 1200 plants and close to 60 different strains( not to mention phenos). Plus i veg my plants. I just dont see what you are expecting unless you get the miracle strain.
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so your not doing sog right? I'm putting 64 lolliepopped clones that have vegged for 2 weeks in hydroton after I took em out of clone machine. I don't know how much ill get. Enough for sure. That's why I said my goal. Wouldn't it be kick ass to pull 64 1 oz single stock colas. I think so. I know I pulled 20 that were 9 week strains on week 6 and got 12 gm average. 3 more weeks no tellin hoe much would have got.
 
bdt1981

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Alaric said:
Now that's not being very civil is it?

Just expressing my opinion based on my experience-----I truly hope to be proven wrong----so rock on with your quest.

I don't like to call people liars----extremely doubtful.

My I ask how much experience you have?

A~~~
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few years. I just know I wouldn't make that up and tell people so dude probably didn't make it up. Honestly idk, seems to good to be true but hey if it can be done that's what I want to be doing. Our room stays pretty good 86 degrees 49 humidity 1400 co2 res temp 65 plenty air movement. Shit happens fast man I could see an oz per plant.
 
Situation420

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It looks like he is going to prune each plant into a single stalk to maximize its growing potential. The problem he is going to have is that there is a limit for the size of each cola to the area it takes up due to the fan leaves. If he wants an ounce per stalk then he cannot remove any fan leaves connected to that stalk then figure out how much space a 1 ounce stalk takes up and design from there.It looks as though he should have went with 48 instead of 64 and He should get more per plant.
 
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