GreasyG
Member
Hi guys and home brewer! My first post here but I have been reading threads for a very long time here on RIU rather than posting as well! Should have done that then I would have been in a position to PM home brewer directly as most of us would agree home brewer knows his stuff!
Going to try and make this short and concise as possible and would like Home Brewer specifically to reply if possible and that would be greatly appreciated.
Ok so im switching to Dyna Gro nutes after using many others (not GH or AN). Running coco/perlite 70/30 mix in 3 gallon airpots (smart pots). Top feed dripper system - drain to waste. Adjust a wing 750W DE HPS lights.
Environment relatively stable throughout all stages. Reservoir tank outside tent and within right nutrient temps.
using tap water with background EC 0.1 and ph of 6.9 (soft water)
Always Run off about 10% everyday to remove salt build ups
Purchased Foliage Pro, Bloom , MagPro, Protekt, - according to Dyna Gro feed chart these are required for drain to waste (non-nutrient growing media – ie Soiless like coco)
I purchased the above nutes and now have the confusing dilemma on who to follow – the dyna grow feed chart or home brewers recommendations for coco (which I respect a lot)
1. HB has said that he has ran coco in the past and only used FP (or grow) all the way through from veg to flower with no supplements/additives like CalMag or bloom apart from GH floralicous plus as an aroma/flavour enhancer and Proteckt and has gained good results as well as other members have said this too.
NPK ratios for FP is a 9:3:6 (3:1:2) which are recommended for VEG. (or even a 1:1:1 is good)
Now here comes the confusing/conflicting bit for me.
If I follow the dyna feed chart FP is cut out from feeding after 4 weeks into flower and Bloom is used from week 1 until the end of flower.
Bloom is NPK 3:12:6 (1:4:2) which as a general consensus is agreed is a good ratio for flowering (lowering the Nitrogen after the initial Stretch few weeks into flowering) and then maintaining lower levels until harvest.
Now ignoring the dosage levels provided by dyna gro on their feed chart (as this is dependent on environment etc and this will vary from grower to grower) it seems to make sense to me in terms of NPK ratios in VEG and FLOWER. Having a 3:1:2 in VEG (FP) up until the 4th of flower and then the 5th week in flower using the bloom to maintain a 3:12:6 ratio.
Obviously the above feed chart is totally the opposite to what HB has said, which is using FP all the way through VEG and FLOWER (meaning keeping high N levels late into flower – to keep things green) – which again from all the reading i have done and come across as well as studies done that LOWER levels of N in mid to late flower are definitely recommended.
HB has also said that he DOES recommended using the FP AND Bloom but only in PURE HYDRO setups. But I thought Coco is classed as a type of hydro substrate!?
HB reply - “I've never tried hempy buckets so a combo of grow or foliage pro AND bloom could be best for flower. Give it a shot and let us know how it works. In true hydro, I like FP and bloom together in flower. In promix I use FP from start to finish. I've found that the growing method matters in regards to what NPK seems to work best”
So after as you can see I am really confused to which recommendation to go for? The feed chart or HB recommendations?
There was other things I wanted to mention but will leave that for a later date otherwise this gunna get even longer than it is
Look forward to HB reply and anyone who can also jump in and straighten this out for me.
Peace!
PS ATTACHED DYNA GROW FEED CHART
Going to try and make this short and concise as possible and would like Home Brewer specifically to reply if possible and that would be greatly appreciated.
Ok so im switching to Dyna Gro nutes after using many others (not GH or AN). Running coco/perlite 70/30 mix in 3 gallon airpots (smart pots). Top feed dripper system - drain to waste. Adjust a wing 750W DE HPS lights.
Environment relatively stable throughout all stages. Reservoir tank outside tent and within right nutrient temps.
using tap water with background EC 0.1 and ph of 6.9 (soft water)
Always Run off about 10% everyday to remove salt build ups
Purchased Foliage Pro, Bloom , MagPro, Protekt, - according to Dyna Gro feed chart these are required for drain to waste (non-nutrient growing media – ie Soiless like coco)
I purchased the above nutes and now have the confusing dilemma on who to follow – the dyna grow feed chart or home brewers recommendations for coco (which I respect a lot)
1. HB has said that he has ran coco in the past and only used FP (or grow) all the way through from veg to flower with no supplements/additives like CalMag or bloom apart from GH floralicous plus as an aroma/flavour enhancer and Proteckt and has gained good results as well as other members have said this too.
NPK ratios for FP is a 9:3:6 (3:1:2) which are recommended for VEG. (or even a 1:1:1 is good)
Now here comes the confusing/conflicting bit for me.
If I follow the dyna feed chart FP is cut out from feeding after 4 weeks into flower and Bloom is used from week 1 until the end of flower.
Bloom is NPK 3:12:6 (1:4:2) which as a general consensus is agreed is a good ratio for flowering (lowering the Nitrogen after the initial Stretch few weeks into flowering) and then maintaining lower levels until harvest.
Now ignoring the dosage levels provided by dyna gro on their feed chart (as this is dependent on environment etc and this will vary from grower to grower) it seems to make sense to me in terms of NPK ratios in VEG and FLOWER. Having a 3:1:2 in VEG (FP) up until the 4th of flower and then the 5th week in flower using the bloom to maintain a 3:12:6 ratio.
Obviously the above feed chart is totally the opposite to what HB has said, which is using FP all the way through VEG and FLOWER (meaning keeping high N levels late into flower – to keep things green) – which again from all the reading i have done and come across as well as studies done that LOWER levels of N in mid to late flower are definitely recommended.
HB has also said that he DOES recommended using the FP AND Bloom but only in PURE HYDRO setups. But I thought Coco is classed as a type of hydro substrate!?
HB reply - “I've never tried hempy buckets so a combo of grow or foliage pro AND bloom could be best for flower. Give it a shot and let us know how it works. In true hydro, I like FP and bloom together in flower. In promix I use FP from start to finish. I've found that the growing method matters in regards to what NPK seems to work best”
So after as you can see I am really confused to which recommendation to go for? The feed chart or HB recommendations?
There was other things I wanted to mention but will leave that for a later date otherwise this gunna get even longer than it is
Look forward to HB reply and anyone who can also jump in and straighten this out for me.
Peace!
PS ATTACHED DYNA GROW FEED CHART