Dresser - 3 Sq. Ft. - 20,600 Lumens - Hydro

I have been wanting to post on here but haven't got around to it. I tried just a little while ago and I think i got an error or something, anyways.. lets try again. I am working with 3 Sq. Ft. of space in a dresser I decided to convert into a Stealth grow cab. Its dimensions are about 15" deep x 32" wide x 27" of usable grow space. I germ'd about 10 seeds collected over time from good bag weed. I only had room for 4 plants in my system so thats how many I am left with today. Had to let the other ones go. I am currently on Day 10 of Veg. I decided to go hydro a little bit into it so I had to transplant from soil to Hydro which shocked my plants by I THINK atleast 2-3 days. I will post pictures of setup and grow.

Alright, let me just get this out of the way. I know aluminum foil sucks and I will be getting Mylar within the next week. Foil was just temp. My setup goes like this,

• 2, 70 watt HPS lights (6000 Lumens Each)
• 2 42 watt CFL's (200w Equiv.) (2700 Lumens Each)
• 1 50 CFM Bathroom exhaust Fan
• 1 Small Wal-Mart fan inside

I tried to install everything as clean as I could with the space given. This is my first real grow. I say real grow because I never got much worth mentioning in my previous grows. I have NEVER done hydro before and actually decided to give it a shot after reading forever on these forums. If you have any comments or suggestions- please let me know. I want to see what people think of this setup... let me know if you think it will work decent.. really only looking to get 1 ounce but anything more is welcome

Here is a picture of the dresser with her powered up and running. There is a little light that escapes from where the drawer sides where but I'm not worried. I can fix that later when its more crucial. Everything else is completely sealed. The bottom 3 drawer fronts attach with drawer catches and the top drawer slides to give me access to my electrical.

Here I have her completely opened up. The middle rails that separate the drawers pull right out from the staple holes they were attached with. You can see the drawers in the corner and the catches on the side. The edges are lined with Vacuum tape (same as weather stripping).

This is the upper electrical drawer. The two lights you see up here are the HPS. It keeps the heat being constantly exhausted without ever getting to my growing area. In the middle is the 50 CFM Bathroom Exhaust fan.

And the bottom 3 drawers. This is the grow chamber as you can see.... THE ALUMINUM FOIL IS TEMP. Will be putting Mylar up later this week sometime. Humidifier down bottom in between paint cans keeps humidity around 65%. You can see the bulb arrangement also.

A close up of the inside. This one you can see the bulbs better. on the outside up top you see the HPS on each side. In the middle are the CFL's both at 2700k temp. I am going to make another Veg box and that is why these are not a more blue spectrum.


Its too bright for me too look at for very long. Really limits my time with the kids...


And to finish this post up... a few of my supplies. Def.not all of them but a few.

Alright- I am currently on Day 10 of Veg. I began with about 10 seeds collected from good bag weed over time. I got I think about 7 to germ, 2 were still borns when my temp dropped, and 1 I had to kill off because I only planned to have room for 4. Of these 4 now who knows how many will be Males/Females. 2 Females and I would be extremely happy. Originally I planned to use soil BUT after reading countless success stories with Hydro and the shortened grow time, I decided I would switch to Hydro. Doing this I think I stunted growth about 2-3 days.
An important note, I am testing a Medium called ZeoPro. It was designed by Nasa and I cannot find ANY forum posts ANYWHERE documenting the use of this on Marijuana. It is fucking nuts in my opinion. I pre-soaked all of my Hydroton and ZeoPro over night in the Nutrient solution and when I poured the Nut solution over the ZeoPro... it like had a reaction and started misting and bubbling. Then the ENTIRE night while it was submerged in water there was tiny bubbles coming up. Read up about this stuff, it seems pretty crazy and I am giving it a shot... Day 10 of Veg and they seem to really like the stuff.
Let me start posting some pictures of my babies.

Here are the 5 that sprouted, the smallest one was the 5th that I had to get rid of.

Here is a pic of all 4 on day 10 of Veg. I transplanted from those soil pods to Hydro and in the process I tore a few small parts of the Roots. Plants were def. stunted a few days but seem to be doing good. The pots are 5 3/4" Dia. and the roots are coming out the bottom and hitting the Nutrient Solution. I hope for Faster growth now but I don't know, Never grown Hydro before.



Here are a couple more pics of the little girls (hopefully). I know the pics suck but its on my phone. I will be sure to get some better ones soon. I just went tonight (at like 1 am) to Wally world to buy a damn magnifying glass cause I heard you can take better closeups like that. heh- I`ll try it out.

awesome bro. I'll be watching and hoping for your girls as I just started my grow too.

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looks good, i really think you coulda put a bigger mh/hps in there with bigger ventilation system.

i have a little bit bigger closet/drawer than you, running 600

Titleistbudz - Thanks, sounds like your going to have a pretty nice setup. I`ll be watching.

LoudBlunts - I know. After reading all the forums of how much heat HPS lights put out I was a little worried and went with the smaller ones. I got them installed and had absolutely no problems with temp so I added two of the highest CFL's i could find and still no problems with Temp. Thats only with my ventilation I have now (which IMO is not that great, but quiet!). I will probably end up building a new cab (ground up) after a couple grows in this one and I will probably invest in a 400watter. I figured (sort of hoped) this should be sufficient to support my habit... or at least until I want more


Here are a few more pics, I used a magnifying glass to make the picture A LOT more clear. I was actually surprised that worked for some reason.

Are those tubes pumping in CO2 or oxygen? Sorry if you already stated it!

Titleistbudz - I forgot to mention that. It is "pumping" in CO2. Pumping in quotes cause its a DIY method with Yeast and Sugar. I ran a Air tube around to each one of the plants and put a T connector to aim it at the plants. I know it probably doesn't put off that much CO2 which is why I placed the OUTLETS directly under the plant. Even if its a little CO2 (which I can see it Bubble so there is some!) at the base of the plants, they should be able to use some of it. I put it in the other day and it seems like my plants have grown some over night.. more than previous nights. I mixed 2 Cups suger with 2 Tbspns of Yeast. Wonder if its the CO2 thats helping, heh- cant hurt.

Below is an article explaining this CHEAP CO2 reaction fairly well, in detail.
DIY CO2 -- yeast

oscarmiya said:

Titleistbudz - I forgot to mention that. It is "pumping" in CO2. Pumping in quotes cause its a DIY method with Yeast and Sugar. I ran a Air tube around to each one of the plants and put a T connector to aim it at the plants. I know it probably doesn't put off that much CO2 which is why I placed the OUTLETS directly under the plant. Even if its a little CO2 (which I can see it Bubble so there is some!) at the base of the plants, they should be able to use some of it. I put it in the other day and it seems like my plants have grown some over night.. more than previous nights. I mixed 2 Cups suger with 2 Tbspns of Yeast. Wonder if its the CO2 thats helping, heh- cant hurt.

Below is an article explaining this CHEAP CO2 reaction fairly well, in detail.
DIY CO2 -- yeast

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Im extremely familiar with the yeast Co2 method. I was just curious to know if those were a pure CO2 but I like that idea of adding the tubing. Very smart.

This sound like a very good start. This is very similar to my set-up. I am currently using one 70w hps but I will soon be upgrading to 2. Keep up the good work. Good Luck. I will be watching this one.

KM

Thanks.

Titleistbudz - You mean, is it producing any other gas's besides CO2? If so I'm not real sure. I thought about that but others were using it for growing so I figured it would be alright. Since you are familiar with the Yeast CO2 method, have you seen much improvement over NOT Using it Vs. Using it?

KushMaster85 - Your grow looks awesome! I was searching for others with spaces about this size so I am glad you stopped by! I will be watching yours also, very curious to see how much you get. I started with 1 70w for about a week until I seen heat was not an issue, then I got another.. then the CFL's were added. Heat has not been a problem at all, actually it gets too cool in there sometimes. You could probably up the watter to either two 150w or a 250w with decent ventilation and be fine. I sort of wish I would have gone that route before I spent the money on the 70 watters but I was worried about the small space and the heat. Either way your doing a hell of a job, I'm jealous, keep up the good work man.

On to my Air pump Problem. My high ass forgot to put the little water stopper in the Air line to prevent water from running down your tube when you power off your cab or whatever. Well, it must have ran down the tube or something when I had it off. I woke up this morning and the pump wasn't putting any bubbles out. Sucked, so I hooked a small little spare up on one of the lines to hold me over until I got back later today. I bought a 60 gallon Whisper air pump (I think like $17 bucks and the Pet store) and a couple Flexible air tubes that disperse the air bubbles evenly. Those piece of shit 12" Air stones from Wally-World blow. They are so light and hard to keep down and they don't put out nearly as much good big clean bubbles as these two Flex Air Tubes do. IMO, glad I spent the $12 bucks on both the tubes.
I added 1 Gallon of clean water to my Res tank also. I noticed small Nute burns on the tips so the Gallon of Fresh Water should help that. I can't wait for my PPM Meter to get here so I can get this all measured out perfectly. I will do the Res change Probably at the end of the week unless my plants still show signs of Nute burn. I`ll add more pictures tomorrow.

Teitliest - Oops- just read your post over again... Yea, No not PURE Co2.. I wish... a little too steep for my budget at the moment.

Alright I was thinking and smoking... lol. I was reading through some AeroPonic stuff and started thinking about my ultra sonic Humidifier i bought at Wally. Could you mix up a batch of some Nute's and fill your Humidifier Tank up? Get your Humidity level at 65% filled with Nutes in the air... Has anyone ever tried this and did it help at all?
Another thought on this same subject is... My Humidifier has a 2" "blow hole" and I have already hooked some PVC up to it just to see... I was able to AIM the mist in any direction by routing the PVC. My thought is in a DWC system or any Hydro system you could Run the PVC pipe from your Humidifier inside your Grow Tub and aim it right at Roots or your pot hanging there.. You could crank up the Humidifier and really saturate the shit out of your roots.. again, wondering if anyone has done this or tried it?

you mentioned the 70 watt hps....are they screwed into regular light sockets...no balast???

xbravoz said:

you mentioned the 70 watt hps....are they screwed into regular light sockets...no balast???

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Nah. You buy the security lights... its the same light you see above a lot of people's garage's, you can find them at Lowes, Menards, Home Depot, Ace... just about any hardware store sells them. They also sell them in Metal Halide and Mercury Vapor. If you look in the pics, the top electrical drawer, the two white circles you see are the "ballasts". I just cut two circular shaped holes (about 4 inches wider than the area the bulb would occupy) through the top shelf so the bulbs stick through, Keeping the heat up top. They usually sell them in 70w and 150w. I think Home Depot sells the 50watter in HPS. The 70w ran me about $50 each at Lowes.. the 150w was $100 at Lowes but too big to fit two in my setup.

nice little stealth grow....since i been reading this forum I keep looking at things in my place thinkin....yea i could fit a couple plants in there...yep, i could fit one in there...like a kid in a candy store

xbravoz said:

nice little stealth grow....since i been reading this forum I keep looking at things in my place thinkin....yea i could fit a couple plants in there...yep, i could fit one in there...like a kid in a candy store

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Thanks, I`ll post some more pictures of the plants tonight. lol, I hear you bout the candy shop thing, as soon as I started this dresser I spotted my little night stand I was thinking about turning into a Veg Cab and leave the dresser for flowering. I feel like I am obsessed with this shit now, I just want to keep adding and adding... Just hope to get some fresh quality smoke in the end and still be able to have people over without any apparent op going down.

VEG - DAY 12

Personally, I like looking at pictures, progress pictures. So bare with me but I will probably post pics a few days apart throughout the journal.

Here are a few pics of the plants today.




A few a little closer up...




Here is what I THINK is the start of Nute burn. After I noticed this, I added 1 Gal Fresh R/O water to the Res and brought water level back bottom of pots. All new Growth seems to be perfectly fine with no signs of burn anywhere else. In the pic you can see the TIPS on the bottom and jagged's a little yellow/brownish. Barely anything at all.


Like I said, first time I have really done a grow, first time I have ever attempted hydro. I think the roots are amazing. Here are a couple pictures of the Roots in 5 1/2" dia. pots after 12 Days of Veg and soil-to-hydro transplant around day 3. Amazing at how small the plant is yet the roots are so long.



And to finish this post up, here are a couple of random pics I took while I was taking the others.
The first pic is the bubbles inside my res tank. The 2" Dia. PVC elbow is in there to keep my Air lines weighted down and in the position I have them.
The Second pic is when I had the Res Tank/Plants out for a minutes with a drawer popped off. You can see the "Misty" Humid air floating out. Try to keep it around 60% but sometimes it drops as low as 40%. It really depends on how warm my room is. The hotter my room is, The higher I can crank up the Humidifier without condensation build-up. It also helps regulate Temp quite a bit. The cooler it is, the less power I give the Humidifier. This makes the Temp's raise but cuts back on Humidity. With the Humidifier alone - I can make my temps Vary I would say 5-10 degrees.



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