Does anyone grow perfectly?

Does anyone every have a grow with no problems whatsoever, no spots, no burn tips, no yellowing...?

If so how long does it take or how many grow till you reached perfection?

ofc, we all are buddy ^^

Joke aside, the concern look like narrowed on nutrient's management. The right line up is not necessary the one you will get from advises, but the line up the more adapted to your water, its PH/EC and your style (short/long cycles, hydro, soil etc ...). It's a good start let's say.

Perfection is over rated.
The bulk of my growing is outdoors. I get really nice plants with no complaints from the testers or me.
I have a complaint with one of my garden workers they leave black feathers on the buds when they go for bud worms or lantern flies. I know it the Catbird as they have a distinct feather color. If I talk to them they just turn around and show me their exit hole.
I loose a percentage the lantern flies were brutal on Freakshow and Farmers Daughter but it is all a learning experience. I doubt I will see a rainless October like we just had again.
My source for the last 40 years was so impressed with my AK47 I gave him more, I got about 20 buds the length and size of my arm from that plant.
The Sour Diesel tastes like the sour I have been getting.
Watching and waiting for the Panama Red to come due, it is starting to yellow more leaves and buds are drooping from weight.
So I don't think there is a perfect process my thoughts are reacting and reading the needs of the plant in the changing environment in the proper fashion. But often the best advise is take pictures and watch it grow.

stawawager said:

Does anyone every have a grow with no problems whatsoever, no spots, no burn tips, no yellowing...?

If so how long does it take or how many grow till you reached perfection?

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Yeah I've had those under HPS, but now it's kinda tricky you always wanna push your LED's a bit and burnt tips are a good indicator for light intensity.
Sometimes you just cannot avoid goin a bit too high, my Ice Cream Cakes are currently very slighty burnt at the tips as well, but looking super healthy otherwise. I see no reason why the end results shouldn't be perfect, at least from the current standpoint.

No such thing as perfection. Having said that after a few grows you should have a general idea of how to keep your plants happy. No need to drive them too hard. Simply keeping them happy is the key.

Not sure it’s possible to ever really be perfect, because nature is a fickle SOB and stuff happens. It’s definitely a goal to work towards though !

99% of the time my plants are perfect from sprout to harvest......no discoloration or deficiency issues.
But occasionally I get a rogue plant that doesn't respond well to my normal grow practice........I don't try to figure out the problem or fix them.

420AD said:

Yeah I've had those under HPS, but now it's kinda tricky you always wanna push your LED's a bit and burnt tips are a good indicator for light intensity.
Sometimes you just cannot avoid goin a bit too high, my Ice Cream Cakes are currently very slighty burnt at the tips as well, but looking super healthy otherwise. I see no reason why the end results shouldn't be perfect, at least from the current standpoint.

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If the ends of your leaves have a burned appearance, it's a fertilizer issue.

LED's give off so little heat that they cannot burn plant tissue. Even if the plants are growing very quickly, as they're wont to do at 1kµmol, if your fertilizer is properly mixed, the increased transpiration due to growth will not cause nute burn.

If you're getting tip burn, check your temperature + RH and/or adjust your nutrient strength.

I grow my plants, routinely, at >1kµmol and the only time I've had nutrient issues is when my VPD was cattywampus.

Light values for current grow are below.

Averages are near 1kµmol with some spots as low as 800, others at 1100+. The plant on the left had an area on one leaf that developed nute burn, maybe 1 square inch. The smaller plant on the right had a few leaves with a nute issue - check the leaves at the front of the plant in the lower photo. That popped up about 1 week ago and it's gone now.

stawawager said:

Does anyone every have a grow with no problems whatsoever, no spots, no burn tips, no yellowing...?

If so how long does it take or how many grow till you reached perfection?

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I've had some "Maytag repairman" grows where every thing runs like a Swiss watch. But that took me three or four grows. I grow in hydro and I'm very process oriented (30+ years as a software engineer).

These diagrams might help. It's "just" pieces of the puzzle. Figure out how to control the variables and things will smooth out. A big deal for me was growing only in Fall and Spring (I'm in north Orange County, about 10 miles from the ocean so temperature are very mild) and I give my plants lots of light and go very light on the fertilizer. My sense is that VPD (temperature + RH) being out of whack and too much fertilizer are the biggest sources of issues.

Of course, even with all the process and discipline, I managed to poison my Spring grow this year by continuing to add H2O2 to the water in the humidifier so I wouldn't have to deal with algae.

After a few weeks, I noticed that the part of the plant closest to Hugh was not growing very well and it hit me that I was adding ounces of H2O2. I refer it to my "Claus von Bülow" grow. So, yeh, you can have some great results and then totally step on your dick.

Delps8 said:

If the ends of your leaves have a burned appearance, it's a fertilizer issue.

LED's give off so little heat that they cannot burn plant tissue. Even if the plants are growing very quickly, as they're wont to do at 1kµmol, if your fertilizer is properly mixed, the increased transpiration due to growth will not cause nute burn.

If you're getting tip burn, check your temperature + RH and/or adjust your nutrient strength.

I grow my plants, routinely, at >1kµmol and the only time I've had nutrient issues is when my VPD was cattywampus.

Light values for current grow are below.

Averages are near 1kµmol with some spots as low as 800, others at 1100+. The plant on the left had an area on one leaf that developed nute burn, maybe 1 square inch. The smaller plant on the right had a few leaves with a nute issue - check the leaves at the front of the plant in the lower photo. That popped up about 1 week ago and it's gone now.

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1.) It's not always the heat that's the issue it's too much light.
Many people tend to run 600w LEDs where they used to run 600w HPS lights and that's ALOT of light!

I can assure you: I run very low feeding schedules to the point where my bottom leaves show a lack of nutrients.
And still my tips are burnt, because that's how I figure out how much light they are willing to take.
I turn them pretty high to begin with and turn 'em back down as far as I have to, to keep my plants happy.

2.) What about IR leds, they do produce heat!?

3.) Don't forget your LEDs are not 100% efficient so yes the fixture also produces heat.
I have IR diodes and these huge blocks of aluminum on top of my boards with the drivers on top heat up quiet a bit.

I was actually wondering how my temps would look if I didn't have the IR leds running... but I can't turn 'em off sadly.
PS: No AC unit here yet, but if the summers are getting any longer or hotter I will have to think about it in the future.

No. I've never had a perfect grow. A couple years ago, I grew something claiming to be Chocolate Thai. It grew very well....no problems.....ended up as nothing more than random, bunk weed of no consequence. All the time and effort....poor genetics. But each experience, good or bad, is valuable.

I can go a whole grow without losing a leaf or discoloration. Coco, stable ph, good light and correct ec. Not too difficult

stawawager said:

Does anyone every have a grow with no problems whatsoever, no spots, no burn tips, no yellowing...?

If so how long does it take or how many grow till you reached perfection?

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It helps if you keep growing one strain till you know it well something fewer growers do these days if you seek picture perfect plants it's a good place to start imo

Every grow is a work of art...
I have failed at hydro for years before I got perfect growth.

Then perfect harvest
Then perfect dry & cure.

Now I grow DANK on every grow.
I can't speak for genetics but I grow as perfect as possible...pheno types will be what they are.

So keepers are subjective
Getting certain pheno types dialed in takes a few grow cycles but I can get everything to express perfectly

When I find the perfect high...I keep that pheno

Perfection exists only in the mind. Every grow comes with its own unique challenges.
Over time we learn how to better control all the variables.

Trap Star said:

Every grow is a work of art...
I have failed at hydro for years before I got perfect growth.

Then perfect harvest
Then perfect dry & cure.

Now I grow DANK on every grow.
I can't speak for genetics but I grow as perfect as possible...pheno types will be what they are.

So keepers are subjective
Getting certain pheno types dialed in takes a few grow cycles but I can get everything to express perfectly

When I find the perfect high...I keep that pheno

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Hahahahahahaha. Sure ya do

There is ALWAYS some level observable defect. One just has to know where and how to look with appropriate judgement/consideration.
A Weld for example:
A weld is the coalescence of elements that make a structure. Some elements are more favorable than others depending on the intent of the structure.
This statement can be applied here but is more unique. Like the weldor who is laying down some grade A dogshit but it’s good enough for the structure. His mind it’s perfect and it very may well be acceptable although not perfect..

Gemtree said:

I can go a whole grow without losing a leaf or discoloration. Coco, stable ph, good light and correct ec. Not too difficult

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I was thinking about switching from soil to coco, cause everybody was raving about it some years ago.
I don't do it simply because I never run out of all of my nutes, there's always something left that makes me stick with my good old soil, cause I don't wanna throw nutes away, hehe.