Did she hermie on me?

Kingrow1

Well-Known Member
You can with a fine pair of tweezers take each male pollen sac of the bud as oppose to choping the bud which would drop yeild, i wouldnt chop the bud personally, big waste. Peace
 

Mr.Grønn

New Member
No matter what you do, you'll most likely miss pollen-sacks and get seeds. They can hide inside buds and not be found until after drying.
Just be careful when removing pollensacks, they shed pollen easily.

Just pray for a good Calyx to Pregnant-Calyx ratio in the end :-)
(or for sterile pollen, which does happen).
 

suTraGrow

Well-Known Member
i do believe thats what that would look like

just grow it out.enjoy good bud and get more seeds female seeds :0)
Mr.Grønn;6174783 said:
No matter what you do, you'll most likely miss pollen-sacks and get seeds. They can hide inside buds and not be found until after drying.
Just be careful when removing pollensacks, they shed pollen easily.

Just pray for a good Calyx to Pregnant-Calyx ratio in the end :-)
(or for sterile pollen, which does happen).
Why would you want seed that have the Hermie genetic in them. Or pollen for that fact?
Not only will you have odds against you male or female. But now you got to worry about male/hermie.
 

cranker

Legal Moderator, Esq.
Why would you want seed that have the Hermie genetic in them. Or pollen for that fact?
Not only will you have odds against you male or female. But now you got to worry about male/hermie.
I dunno but TH seeds seems to have sent out a ton of freebie seeds with the hermie gene in them :grin:
 

Kingrow1

Well-Known Member
Why would you want seed that have the Hermie genetic in them. Or pollen for that fact?
Not only will you have odds against you male or female. But now you got to worry about male/hermie.
Sometimes stress and enviroment can lead to an increased tendency to hermie, the genetics for a plant to produce male and female flowers seem present in a lot of strains but dont always show unless encouraged by stress. My plants show a tendency to hermie when stressed and irregular light period but when perfect conditions prevail i dont see any hermie traits.

The whole hermie thing seems like too big a debate to fully understand, to some a slight herm is acceptable at the end of flower with sensimillia but to others it is frowned upon, you can certainly live with it if you want to, bud is still good to smoke and seeds will always be viable and germinate producing your next selfed generation. Suppose it depends on your situation or stand point on the subject.

Breeders seem to tolerate this slight herm when making seeds for sale, you got options but you probably got seed too. Peace
 

Kingrow1

Well-Known Member
Id say this is a good example of a plant showing its male undertones on a predominantly female plant. I never had a plant herm this bad, damn these days im lucky if i get a single pollen sac, need some more seeds to grow soon so i like the odd few every few plants. if this guy gets back yo this thread can you post pics of the whole bud and plant please, some of them leaves dont look great, is this unstable genetics i think. Peace
 

Mr.Grønn

New Member
Why would you want seed that have the Hermie genetic in them. Or pollen for that fact?
Not only will you have odds against you male or female. But now you got to worry about male/hermie.
Was that for me?
Weird, you are not reading my post, or you didn't understand (my english maybe).

I've never said anything about wanting seed, but the opposite!
I wrote "pray for a good ratio" of seedless calyxes (buds) vs seeded calyx (I guessed that he does not want seeds but buds).

Or, hope that the pollen is sterile (so he does not get seeds at all). I've read somewhere that pollen can be sterile, although it seldom happens. Maybe this is not correct?
 

johnman2880

Active Member
Why would you want seed that have the Hermie genetic in them. Or pollen for that fact?
Not only will you have odds against you male or female. But now you got to worry about male/hermie.
if the plant is forced hermie by either chemical or stress then thats beneficial.then you pollinate more females of the strain with it then thats how you make "feminized seeds"
a hermie genetic seed thats pre determined through poor breeding habits of bag-seeders and is a true hermie will make seeds with a almost certain chance of being hermies
 

Kingrow1

Well-Known Member
Why would you want seed that have the Hermie genetic in them. Or pollen for that fact?
Not only will you have odds against you male or female. But now you got to worry about male/hermie.
I dont fully understand the botanical principles of the hermie trait in weed but i believe every plant has the ability to hermie or at least the male equivelent genetics to. Feminised plants moreso but it is not really that apparent in most strains.

Some hate it others have no problem with it, depends on the grow and grower. I personally love it, i havent paid for a fem seed in years and grown hundreds of plants from my original ten seeds and some bagseeds. Damn genetics seem to be breaking down from constant inbreeding but i am no geneticist so i dont know for sure what is going on there.

As for yeild i have always been happy and most plants seem to be same height and size so quite uniform. I say if you get seeds especially feminised grow them out and find out what the genetics are if you got time and space, back cross the good ones and maybe even cross with another strain to make a F1 hybrid.

Seed production can be a lot of fun if your not just after big fast yeilds from guarenteed seeds, people think you get mutant plants or hermie traits but genetics has always been kind to me and fun. Dont frown on seed production, breeders do it all the time and as for the hermie trait it is bred in by a lot of top breeders, i wouldnt say it is hermie genetics as true hermies look like train wrecks.

Would you call a one pund plant at harvest a hermie if you found just one single bannana in all the one pounds worth of bud???

Hermie means a lot of things, often misunderstood and feared unfortunatly. I desire it in my plants others dont, only problem is i have bred my feminised strain to the point where it needs some new vigor and genetics, inbreeding seems good for a few generations and then the yeild and growth suffers. Breed them seeds if you got to pay ridiculous prices for them off the internet but if your a serious grower you wont want to be messing around with stuff like that. Peace and dont hate the hermies!lol!
 

Kingrow1

Well-Known Member
For small time growers who want to breed some seeds for fun then i have a simple little program, obviously nothing like the big breeders but in reality the process is similar and generally works.

So let a female plant fertilise another to get seed, try to select a female plant that shows the least hermi trait for obvious reasons. Take the seeds of this plant, will all be feminised, and germinate all of them or as many as you can. Kill weak seedlings and slow growing ones only keeping the best and fastest. Next veg them and just select the best to flower.

Before flowering take clones of each plant and lable them up so you know which flowering plant each clone came from. Now when the flowering plants are finished kill all clones except the ones that came from the finished plants after flowering that showed strongest and best yeilds.

Basically you are trying to select the desirable traits that you want in your strain and breeding these traits only, breeders make it more technical but still they are just selecting the genetics and traits they want and like. people think making a few seeds is bad but can be real good fun if your not bothered about loosing a few plants and spce in the grow room, even bud with seeds in still smokes good and yeilds big, except for all the seeds obviously.

Dont hate seeds, its just natures way, top breeders breed out so much of the genetics of weed it is bad for the genepool, in nature there are so many crosses and different strains and when they all mix the genepool grows a lot and keeps it healthy.

Common misconception that the hermie trait is bad, to some of us growers it is just another amazing and fun feature of the great ganja plant, people frown on it where as i love to play around and try all different things, why be scared of making and growing your own seeds, eventually you learn how to and what to do and hell basically you are mother nature at her best.

Was it the seed companies who told you not to breed your own seeds cause i say screw their ridiculous prices and ill fail at making my own, im only into growing weed for fun and hermie plants are damn sure a lot of fun to play about with.

P.s. this guys plant looks a bad hermie though, i would avoid breeding with it but would still grow out the seeds for the hell of it, best strains have come from the biggest mistakes and fails generally.
 

stuckonsticky

Well-Known Member
Some plants grow male flowers when the buds are ripe. ..Its probably done now...its way to far along for those bananas to affect it..i do know that
 

weedboy613

Active Member
Remove all the male parts every time you see them and continue growing the plant. Just chopping it now is a waste so Id keep growing until its mature and if the smoke isn't nice at the end then just make some hash instead!
 

resinousflowers

Well-Known Member
Why would you want seed that have the Hermie genetic in them. Or pollen for that fact?
Not only will you have odds against you male or female. But now you got to worry about male/hermie.

but you dont know if it was stressed or not.if severe stress caused it to herm,more than likely the seeds will be fems.
 
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