Confused?!?

Doc McPuffins

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This is my second grow so I'm still figuring things out as I go. I currently have 2 blue dream 1 silver haze and 1 blueberry plant in flower. It's been 7 weeks from seed. All plants have been growing fine up until I switched to 12/12. the 2 bd have plenty of buds but the silver and bb plants just started showing pistils a few days ago. And the bb is now starting to droop/claw after I feed her. That's the only plant that's doing this and I have not changed any part of my routine. So this is why I'm confused I'm running 1100w led in ffof soil using ff trio nutes in smart pots in a 3x3x6 area temp sits between 75-80 humidity around 45-50% ph is 6.3. Also noticed the day after I feed all of them the bb plants seems to be dried out on top. Any suggestions? First pic is the bb second is the silverhaze
 

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Richard Drysift

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They look fine to me other than the droop but it sounds like it's possible they need to be in bigger containers. Only 2 causes of droop; too much or too little water. If the pot size has not been increased since mid veg and it seems like you need to keep watering more often than before transplant to larger containers. Pots that are too small often force you to overwater even if the plant is not rootbound; larger pots regulate moisture better. If you let the soil dry out for 2 days and the root ball is hard you need bigger pots.
If the BB doesn't seem to like as much ppms back off & dilute your nute/water solution. Some strains are more sensitive to higher ppms than others. Don't ph the water if you are & runoff ph means nothing here. You need a quality soil probe to know what the ph is at the rootzone. FFOF soil is ph balanced so unless there's a significant buildup of salts present in the soil your ph is likely just fine where it is.
 

nfhiggs

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Only 2 causes of droop; too much or too little water. .
If that were true this game would be easy.

All sorts of things *can* make them droop - overwatering, lack of water, too much nitrogen, being root bound, root rot, high or low PH for extended periods, extremely low humidity for extended periods, diseases, pest infestations, etc. etc.
 

Doc McPuffins

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Thanks for all the input guys. But what confuses me is that the roots haven't even started coming thru the smart pot like my last grow. So I should still put it in a bigger pot? I've ruled out ph pests and deficiencies since all the leaves look very healthy. No yellowing or brown spots. I do have a 3 way soil probe for ph moist and light and nothing is out of place. Is it safe to transplant this far into flower? Or should I just ride it out and hope for the best
 

Dr. Who

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Lol. Why u say that?
I tested them for one of the makers - You don't see my comments in any of their advertising.

The root ball forms a severely tight "ball" at the center of the pot. This gives way to watering problems. You water, and it simply goes in part way and runs off the rootball and drains out the sides and bottom of the pot.
This is called the "umbrella effect".

Now you have to water more to get the core of that rootball damp. You know what - it won't! In testing I cut the whole contents of the pot in half. The cores of the "rootball" were dry and had turned woody and ineffective at uptaking nutrient/water. NO matter how and how much I watered! That means WASTE!

You have this area of "unused" soil/media around the edge and bottom of the pot. This is wasted media that should have roots in it - using that media to feed from! That means WASTE. Especially for an organic gardener.

Remember that bigger roots mean bigger/more buds! So one might say here, - Up pot to a bigger pot.
Tried that too. Still formed that inefficient, too tight a rootball. Increased the waste factor......

The idea of fabric and air pots are to get more O2 to the roots - good thing. If you want to do that better.....Water a metered amount of water/feed every day at lights on.....I use an amount that carries me perfectly to the next day at lights on..

Shit ton cheaper then those stupid pots!

I know there are those of you who love them. Please feel free to do what makes you happy....
 

Doc McPuffins

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Wow. Ok well like I said it's my second grow so I'm like a sponge right now absorbing all this valuable information from all u guys here. Much appreciated. So if smart pots ain't the way to go what do you use for pots?
 

Stipulus

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Wow. Ok well like I said it's my second grow so I'm like a sponge right now absorbing all this valuable information from all u guys here. Much appreciated. So if smart pots ain't the way to go what do you use for pots?
I can't stand smart pots...it seems that coco compacts down the bottom of them for some reason and my medium went from near the op to about 3 inches down through watering...this makes watering them bloody annoying. Just use normal plastic pots, they are just as easy to handle and 99% of oxygen too your roots is to do with how you water your plants.
 
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