Commercial growing

Doogan

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Are there any commercial growers available? I am moving from a multi location large scale medical MJ growing operation to a single building, commercial growing system. nearly a 42,000q/ft location indoors. I am looking for help on setup for efficiency and value. I am looking to have an all top light system using a soil base to start.

Thanks.
 

vostok

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the main difference between the cfl amateur and the commercial grower is volume at the right quality

consolidation is a natural and obvious operational method,

unless your customers are far and wide..?

nothing like having all your eggs in one basket

you gotta weigh up all the pros and cons

good luck
 

Dr. Who

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Are there any commercial growers available? I am moving from a multi location large scale medical MJ growing operation to a single building, commercial growing system. nearly a 42,000q/ft location indoors. I am looking for help on setup for efficiency and value. I am looking to have an all top light system using a soil base to start.

Thanks.
Everything depends on the available cash to spend on set up!

What do you plan for veg and bloom? - Are you running perpetual, separate veg area/separate bloom area or veg and bloom in place, whole area run to run?

Water purification?
Nutrient?
Organic recycle?
What are you looking at or thinking for AC/ Heat?
Gassing? (Most likely not but,, thought I'd ask)
What are you thinking for lighting options?

The best thing I can suggest at this point is get your wholesale lic. (cheap and easy to do - go to your county seat or city hall for that)
Now contact distributors directly for bulk pricing on everything you need.....deals can be made.
Contact an electrician and be sure the new location is capable. If not, have it done.

I like out of business Die shops. Electrical, Heating and AC needs are already covered other then outlets. They have incoming water and usable waste solutions in place.

Other then that. Don't know/understand what your asking.
 

Doogan

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  • Already have building....Empty warehouse/workshop. Looks like the aluminum building Mechanics usually use but much larger.
  • All A/C is taken care of
  • All electrical needs taken care of
  • Plumbing is fine
  • Water input (external usage) will be supplemented by using condensation water. Have used this in the past and works great, ppm always <50.
  • 300 gallon tanks for H2O and nutrients
  • All top lighting
    • VEG: T5s
    • BLOOM: AC/DE 1K per 5'x5' top lighting and OG hood 1K Top Light
  • Veg and Bloom separate. Many reasons; preferred style and laws....
  • Soil
  • 72-144 total plants in bloom. Wide range due to restrictions again. So this will change crop times and progression will allow for expansion within the laws....blah blah blah
  • Large scale vegetative area. Laws permit high levels of seedling/clone/veg plants but black and white on bloom numbers.
  • Security is in place; cameras, fencing, lock and key.....
I should have been a little clearer on what it is that I'm asking. Above is a few details about the grow. I am really asking about the types of issues that are experienced in a full sized commercial grow compared to a 3/4,000 sq/ft grow(s)?
Also, the methods to everyones madness is different for their needs, but in a large grow the needs change for everyone. Like where watering stations are best suited since they are massive and weigh a ton..literally. CO2 is another issue that some come across because of security, cost vs. security, efficiency.... The types of light hoods, bulbs, are their any challenges or recommendations here? Plants on pallet rollers? Moving vegetative area, tables on wheels...?

A huge question is, how is the smell felt with? Especially during harvest? Dry room and trim room in the same building or move to another location for processing?

Many of these questions I have asked other growers alike and I am really trying to gather as much info as possible. Starting out on the right foot on a large scale can save you thousands...or tens of thousands...so this is quite the challenge.
 

Doogan

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Bit of a strange thread. A commercial grower with an up and running op would already know the answers to this and how to move forward..
I'm looking for as much input as possible. I have almost all of the prints and paperwork finished and the setup is pretty much complete. I am looking for any input that may help. Pessimistic answers are pathetic at best. But thanks for that effort.
 

Doogan

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Why would you be concerned about odor in a legal commercial grow?I think you are a dreamer personally. If you had these resources you would not be asking here. I'm with the other poster on that.
Well the issue with smell is obvious. There are these people out there called thieves.
 

hotrodharley

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Well the issue with smell is obvious. There are these people out there called thieves.
What a frigging goof. Do you think you can fool those around you? Doing what? Making bagels or . . . . ? If you think the REAL criminals in that area would not know about it you are sorely mistaken and quite green. Wear a cap if you go out today. I hear there are woodpeckers all around.
 

lahadaextranjera

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Why would you be concerned about odor in a legal commercial grow?I think you are a dreamer personally. If you had these resources you would not be asking here. I'm with the other poster on that.
Yes it's quite plain to see isn't it.
Are there any commercial growers available? I am moving from a multi location large scale medical MJ growing operation to a single building, commercial growing system. nearly a 42,000q/ft location indoors. I am looking for help on setup for efficiency and value. I am looking to have an all top light system using a soil base to start.

Thanks.
For a start a commercial grower wouldn't be looking for Internet tips on how to run for efficiency and value, this they would already know. Secondly on a 42,000sq ft grow would you not be in hydro? The more professional set up for so many lights?

Sorry but this thread stinks of bacon. Pics or it didn't happen!
 

Doogan

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how will you get rid of all the reserve product ? any body can grow and make thousands of pounds .
The reserve product, as in the drying product... That was an issue that I have asked about. The reserve product I am unsure if the product will be left at the facility of at the processing location. The issue there is with weight. Too much weight at a location can cause issues. So moving the product for processing is the most likely route.
 

hotrodharley

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Loose lips sink ships. Unless you had everything shipped in to a different address and then set up in the dark people are going to know. Deliveries of equipment, purchases in town of supplies. Your garbage even with a locked dumpster. Money that cannot be deposited in a bank.
 

Doogan

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Well Im guessing there are no large scale growers here. Too much pessimism here. Sounds like everyone has already made the move to commercial growing and are too far advanced of a grower to give any worth while advice or even a conversation. Great site here.
 

70's natureboy

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This is why a good grower/ warehouse manager is worth $50k/year. You don't want to learn the ropes the hard way. If you lose a couple crops you could go under before you get the hang of it. If you advertised a serious job with an income range on a job search site you would get applicants. I'm not so sure how you would weed them out unless they brought samples. (?) Now that these warehouses are popping up everywhere, I would work for one for the right price and they would see a significant increase in production, quality and income. There are lots of experts out there but few job opportunities at this point in time. All of that knowledge in someones head would be too much to type on a website. good luck.
 

a mongo frog

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This is why a good grower/ warehouse manager is worth $50k/year. You don't want to learn the ropes the hard way. If you lose a couple crops you could go under before you get the hang of it. If you advertised a serious job with an income range on a job search site you would get applicants. I'm not so sure how you would weed them out unless they brought samples. (?) Now that these warehouses are popping up everywhere, I would work for one for the right price and they would see a significant increase in production, quality and income. There are lots of experts out there but few job opportunities at this point in time.
Think its around 90k-100k. But yea your right.
 

Dr. Who

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Harley and whatever the name is, have a point....But for shits and giggles..


Screw odor! Not like anyone will know whats there anyway right? Besides, you would spend untold amounts on even ATTEMPTING to control odor - Hmm, are you sure you've done this on a commercial scale before?

Don't locate water tanks around - Run water lines around with a single pump supply. Like every X amount of area you have an available water hose and soft supply head to walk down the area and water.

Gassing can be done effectively with generators.......Another reason to like Die shops - standing liquid Co2 tanks outside in large scale.....Co2 is cheap in bulk! There is plenty of control and monitoring equipment used for safety and effectiveness available for the scale you may operate at.

Plants on rollers.....I don't. Manpower and pallets and pallet jacks for transfer. Once the plant is set for bloom - that's where it stays.

Challenges.....Well I'll say this....
Once you have everything in place and the plants are not there yet.....SANITIZE the WHOLE fucking PLACE - Don't leave a single surface untreated! The nightmare of PM in something that size is simply scary!

Be SURE to have an enclosed dbl entry system and a pad of Sodium or Potassium bicarb that all who enter step on.....BE sure to treat every plant coming in by the dip method for molds and bugs..

Good luck
 
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Carolina Dream'n

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If you have a warehouse of that size and have to ask questions like this, rent that bitch out. You'll make more money doing that than growing, I promise.

We don't like "commercial growers" with a 1000 questions. Kinda shows your not much of a grower.

How your grow is gonna be your style. I like 4x8 flood and drain tables on wheels with trellis nets over each individual table so I can move them around. 2 1000w DE over each table. I put 50 plants on each table (no plant limit here) with about a week veg. Yield between 1.5 and 2 oz of each plant. Dedicated veg room and drying room will keep rotations moving smoothly.
 

Dr. Who

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Harley! A dumpster, really? Install an incinerator !!! No scrap outside the walls!

;-) ;-)

Hey, sometimes it's just fun to answer.....Bet he tries the op.
Bet he looses a harvest or 2 to molds/bugs...
 
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