Cloning with honey?

Raspberrykiwi

Raspberrykiwi

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Hello, id like a bit of confirmation from someone who has maybe done this before?? I don’t have cloning equipment so here is what I used. 6 1x1 pieces of foil, folded 2 times to make thick 6 inch squares. I used a small cup to form little pots and filled all 6 with peat moss. I cut 6 cuttings and placed them in RO water and used honey to coat the bottom of every clone and stuffed it into the peat moss. I then watered with about a shot glass of water to saturate the peat in every little pot. Does anyone think this will work? Or should I just get some cloning gel? My plant just got flipped to 12/12 yesterday. EB66DFE2-F813-44DC-B086-8FC158A84E3E.jpeg
 
Raspberrykiwi

Raspberrykiwi

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spliffendz said:
Never tried honey but also heard of aloe vera being used, recently just tried in an egg storage box/with lid with compost and sprayed with water, had a 50/50 clone rate
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I also hear just using a water bottle works too, cutting it and sticking it into a water bottle. Maybe I’ll cut 3 more and stick them in bottles to see how that works for me. I didn’t add anything to the peat moss. It’s just plain.
 
spliffendz

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I also cut at 45 deg angle at the branch intersection with a sharp disinfected blade then dropped into water before putting into their home, also the lid added for humidity, some did die from white hair fungus due to too much dampness I may add. My fave is the polythene bag method but can't find my bags atm.
 
Raspberrykiwi

Raspberrykiwi

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spliffendz said:
I also cut at 45 deg angle at the branch intersection with a sharp disinfected blade then dropped into water before putting into their home, also the lid added for humidity, some did die from white hair fungus due to too much dampness I may add. My fave is the polythene bag method but can't find my bags atm.
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Should I add bags? Or maybe will be good without them? My buddy was supposed to do my clones for me but he’s lagging and not even texting back. Running out of time to get these plants made!
 
spliffendz

spliffendz

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Raspberrykiwi said:
Should I add bags? Or maybe will be good without them? My buddy was supposed to do my clones for me but he’s lagging and not even texting back. Running out of time to get these plants made!
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Bags or bottles in a shaded corner worked for me but there is a point that they need air, (I used to cut a corner off the bag, can't remember now but roughly 5-7 days), and knowing when that point is.
Most experts on here will say the store bought cloning sprayer thing is the best.
 
Raspberrykiwi

Raspberrykiwi

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spliffendz said:
Bags or bottles in a shaded corner worked for me but there is a point that they need air, (I used to cut a corner off the bag, can't remember now but roughly 5-7 days), and knowing when that point is.
Most experts on here will say the store bought cloning sprayer thing is the best.
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I can’t wait for all that lol. I’m hoping this works for me. I don’t have bags big enough but I suppose I’ll try
 
xtsho

xtsho

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I've used honey and was very successful getting rooted cuttings. Honey is a natural antifungal and antibacterial which prevents nasties and allows the cutting to root without rotting.

But you should have just gotten the peat moss damp, made a hole, dipped the clone in honey, placed it in the hole, and firmed the peat after. There was no need to put more water on them. You don't want soaking wet when using peat, coco, or soil. Let them dry out some and then use a sprayer to keep the peat damp without soaking it.

I clone in coco and have been successful without anything, the cheap powdered rooting compounds, and honey. I've also purchased IBA and made my own cloning solution in the past. One thing I won't do is purchase any cloning product targeted to cannabis growers. You don't need to pay the prices they charge to be successful at cloning. I've used the popular name brands in the past and the results were no better than what I do now. It just cost more money to get the same result.
 
Raspberrykiwi

Raspberrykiwi

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xtsho said:
I've used honey and was very successful getting rooted cuttings. Honey is a natural antifungal and antibacterial which prevents nasties and allows the cutting to root without rotting.

But you should have just gotten the peat moss damp, made a hole, dipped the clone in honey, placed it in the hole, and firmed the peat after. There was no need to put more water on them. You don't want soaking wet when using peat, coco, or soil. Let them dry out some and then use a sprayer to keep the peat damp without soaking it.

I clone in coco and have been successful without anything, the cheap powdered rooting compounds, and honey. I've also purchased IBA and made my own cloning solution in the past. One thing I won't do is purchase any cloning product targeted to cannabis growers. You don't need to pay the prices they charge to be successful at cloning. I've used the popular name brands in the past and the results were no better than what I do now. It just cost more money to get the same result.
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Do you think I can get away without putting bags on them?
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Raspberrykiwi said:
Do you think I can get away without putting bags on them?
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I rarely use bags or a dome. If I do it's just for a couple days. Usually misting them with a fine mist a few times a day is all that's needed. One thing I would do is get them out of direct light. I always stick mine away from direct light for about a week. You want them growing roots not leaves and roots don't need direct light. You don't want them in the dark but just ambient light is good enough until they start growing roots.

Another thing regarding using bags or a dome to consider is the humidity.
 
Raspberrykiwi

Raspberrykiwi

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xtsho said:
I rarely use bags or a dome. If I do it's just for a couple days. Usually misting them with a fine mist a few times a day is all that's needed. One thing I would do is get them out of direct light. I always stick mine away from direct light for about a week. You want them growing roots not leaves and roots don't need direct light. You don't want them in the dark but just ambient light is good enough until they start growing roots.

Another thing regarding using bags or a dome to consider is the humidity.
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So they’re under my plants canopy. Not directly in the light, the light is about 4 feet away from them. Maybe higher. Also, the plant takes up most of my 4x4 so there should be very little light getting through to them
 
Raspberrykiwi

Raspberrykiwi

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So here’s what’s going on... the clones I cut and placed into foil cups all had honey on the base. Only one is left standing... nice and stiff, think it’ll make it. The other 5, well here it is. image.jpg

I’m running a second “set” of clones. This one is only 3. Each is in their own water bottle. They all look very promising! No wilting, reaching for the light and seem like they will create very nice clones of my plant, that is if they root! image.jpg

Any suggestions for my 5 wilting clones?
 
TJ_BASS

TJ_BASS

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For the ones in the foil I suggest you make the pot they’re in way smaller next time so you can control how moist it is. You don’t want it too moist just moist enough.
 
MICHI-CAN

MICHI-CAN

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I am an old cheap bastard. I've tried honey, aloe vera, nothing and rooting hormone. Side by side years ago. The first 3 rooted about 80% of the time. With poor to average roots. Cheap Root Tone powder gave 90% with healthy growth.

The water bottles will work if you use tap water for the chlorine. Disinfects the cutting and retards algae and biologic pathogens. Just keep them out of direct light. At at least 72 F..

Your wilting ones appear to be dying from your light in the tent.

There is a simple step by step to cloning with decent pictures in my journal if you want another persons methods. Keep trying and asking. It will come together for you.
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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Raspberrykiwi said:
So here’s what’s going on... the clones I cut and placed into foil cups all had honey on the base. Only one is left standing... nice and stiff, think it’ll make it. The other 5, well here it is. View attachment 4700219

I’m running a second “set” of clones. This one is only 3. Each is in their own water bottle. They all look very promising! No wilting, reaching for the light and seem like they will create very nice clones of my plant, that is if they root! View attachment 4700222

Any suggestions for my 5 wilting clones?
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The plants popped straight in soil, just prop up with a wooden skewers to hold them up until they don't need them anymore. I also wouldn't be spraying the leaves, but that's just me.

The ones in water bottles, make sure you change the water regularly.
 
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