Cloning using dirt instead of rock wool..

Dolci

Active Member
I've attempted rock wool with humidity dome and heat mats, and no luck. Gonna try soil in plastic drinking cups. I know to use root gel and etc. Has anyone tried and been succesful?
 

darkdestruction420

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are you open to an easier method? i will find a guide on a method that requires no worrying about humidity or misting or any of that. i didnt write it but its a good one.

As easy as cloning is to the masses that use powder, liquid/gel rooting hormone, bubblers and soil, etc. There is an even less complex method of cloning that is so easy, it must have been around for decades, if not centuries. The only ingredients involved are water, light, and the cutting you would like to root. In the example I?m going to show, I?ve cut three different sizes of clone. The first with two leaves and a single growing tip (S). The next has four nodes, but still only a couple large leaves (M). The third is 6? tall, has seven nodes and several sets of good-sized leaves (L).

As with normal cloning, you immediately dip the cutting in the water for about 15 to 30 seconds, tweaking it to dislodge any air bubbles that may be present. But the biggest difference is, you won?t be removing the cutting from the water until it has roots big enough to support the foliage above. Make sure the cup, which contains the cutting, is opaque. This prevents the light from shining directly on the roots.

So far, I?ve mentioned the cuttings and the water, but the most important part is the light. I have made this method work 100% of the time simply by sitting my cuttings on a windowsill that receives no direct sunlight. In fact, slightly shaded would be even better. In the evenings (short days), I sit them on an end table over 7 feet from a ceiling mounted 100-watt incandescent bulb. At bedtime, I just turn off the lights like normal, and when I get up in the AM its back to the windowsill. During the longer daylight hours they can be left on the sill full time. Remember, no direct sunlight.

The picture shows my three cuttings in their water cups. M & L have barely an inch of water to sit in. Any more and it would cover one of the leaf stems. The smaller one stayed in the plastic because the stem was too short to sit in water and stay upright in the cup. Do what?s necessary to keep at least ½? of the stem in the water.

Notice the glass that diffuses light, an extra measure against too much light exposure.


The clones grew roots at far different speeds. S showed in seven days, with a small ¼? long root and another small protrusion.


By the time S?s roots reached this level of development (nine days), L was just putting out the first nubs that would be roots. M has shown no inclination of rooting at all. Searching for an answer, I changed the water in Ms cup, but I think it boils down too the thickness of the stem. Both M&L have the same size stem but L has far more foliage on top.


S is doing far better than the others (seen below) and M is finally starting to show.


M showed roots in 14 days and was planted on day 18.
This picture was taken just before transplant.


L showed roots on day 11 and was in soil at day 18.
This picture was taken just before transplant.


S showed roots at seven days and was in the soil at 15.
This picture was taken just before transplant.

 

unlucky

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rockwool is very easy with seeds or cuttings,i use them all the time and 100% all the time, how are you doing it from the start ?
 

nick17gar

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i use soil and have a high success rate. this cup/plastic film method seems cool tho, maybe ill try that out next time.
 

DOOZY

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11 days . wool in dome with heat 4 to 8 days tops .. instead of soil use sand .. sand in humidity dome with heat. also root bugs like aphids cant get int it..
 

Dolci

Active Member
Ive used rock wool in a humidity dome, and can't get the right moisture correct. I keep getting root rot.
 

CanBud

Well-Known Member
are you open to an easier method? i will find a guide on a method that requires no worrying about humidity or misting or any of that. i didnt write it but its a good one.

As easy as cloning is to the masses that use powder, liquid/gel rooting hormone, bubblers and soil, etc. There is an even less complex method of cloning that is so easy, it must have been around for decades, if not centuries. The only ingredients involved are water, light, and the cutting you would like to root. In the example I?m going to show, I?ve cut three different sizes of clone. The first with two leaves and a single growing tip (S). The next has four nodes, but still only a couple large leaves (M). The third is 6? tall, has seven nodes and several sets of good-sized leaves (L).

As with normal cloning, you immediately dip the cutting in the water for about 15 to 30 seconds, tweaking it to dislodge any air bubbles that may be present. But the biggest difference is, you won?t be removing the cutting from the water until it has roots big enough to support the foliage above. Make sure the cup, which contains the cutting, is opaque. This prevents the light from shining directly on the roots.

So far, I?ve mentioned the cuttings and the water, but the most important part is the light. I have made this method work 100% of the time simply by sitting my cuttings on a windowsill that receives no direct sunlight. In fact, slightly shaded would be even better. In the evenings (short days), I sit them on an end table over 7 feet from a ceiling mounted 100-watt incandescent bulb. At bedtime, I just turn off the lights like normal, and when I get up in the AM its back to the windowsill. During the longer daylight hours they can be left on the sill full time. Remember, no direct sunlight.

The picture shows my three cuttings in their water cups. M & L have barely an inch of water to sit in. Any more and it would cover one of the leaf stems. The smaller one stayed in the plastic because the stem was too short to sit in water and stay upright in the cup. Do what?s necessary to keep at least ½? of the stem in the water.

Notice the glass that diffuses light, an extra measure against too much light exposure.


The clones grew roots at far different speeds. S showed in seven days, with a small ¼? long root and another small protrusion.


By the time S?s roots reached this level of development (nine days), L was just putting out the first nubs that would be roots. M has shown no inclination of rooting at all. Searching for an answer, I changed the water in Ms cup, but I think it boils down too the thickness of the stem. Both M&L have the same size stem but L has far more foliage on top.


S is doing far better than the others (seen below) and M is finally starting to show.


M showed roots in 14 days and was planted on day 18.
This picture was taken just before transplant.


L showed roots on day 11 and was in soil at day 18.
This picture was taken just before transplant.


S showed roots at seven days and was in the soil at 15.
This picture was taken just before transplant.

This does make sense and I'm definately gonna try it out. When I first attempted a few cutting a short while back I could only think of how people keep flowers fresh for a few extra days...in water! So I stuck all my cutting in a bottle of water .and they all looked good until I removed them to be put in soil a few days later. Can you give me an idea of how tall my newly started plants should be before I try to take cuttings? Also I'm not interested in keeping the so called mother plants in veg, I want to time them to grow outdoors with her offspring regardless of the size difference.
 
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