trichomedome
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I,m wondering how auto,s respond to training/toping etc ? i,ve got some lemon haze and would like to get the most from it. any info apreciated TCD
Can I Super Crop Ultra Lemon Haze
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crazyhazey
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yes, but super cropping is just cutting off weeks of vegging by topping while you could get branches from any node if trained to expose the inner nodes the most, just tip her over and get her to bend on her side if you want her to grow out some branches, whatever part of the plant is closest to light will start getting most of the energy.
on my current grow im training the plant to grow around the rim of the entire pot in attempt to get 4 dominant tops and a top bud without having to cut off any foliage, this will make all the tops just as efficient as each other because i will be keeping all tops at the same height.
topping causes stress as well, plants dont like losing limbs especially if said limbs are photosynthesizing the most since they're the closest to light and a large majority of energy is delivered to the highest point. you take off 5 days of veg for every top, the plant takes its veg energy to start new tops and branches.
so, imo, no strain is good to top. time is money, time lost due to topping is money lost in the long run my friend, time is the most valuable key to the growth cycle.
on my current grow im training the plant to grow around the rim of the entire pot in attempt to get 4 dominant tops and a top bud without having to cut off any foliage, this will make all the tops just as efficient as each other because i will be keeping all tops at the same height.
topping causes stress as well, plants dont like losing limbs especially if said limbs are photosynthesizing the most since they're the closest to light and a large majority of energy is delivered to the highest point. you take off 5 days of veg for every top, the plant takes its veg energy to start new tops and branches.
so, imo, no strain is good to top. time is money, time lost due to topping is money lost in the long run my friend, time is the most valuable key to the growth cycle.
crazyhazey
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yes especially not with autos, training any plant is suggested, all training does is make a plants light intake more efficient as well as division of energy. if you dont want popcorn buds and a few big buds to clip, take undesired branches as clones so they arent leeching any energy but if they are photosynthesizing and arent shadowed by other leaves, keep it. just try to make all your leaves get as much light penetration as possible, thats the goal of an LST
trichomedome
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I,m in agreement 100% about cutting limbs of any plant, what i normaly do is tie them over. it gives me a nice even canopy. So do i just do the same thing, after it,s vegged ? thanks TCD
Bonkleesha
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no, but u can ultra crop super lemon haze.
trichomedome
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why cant i tie them over ? = super crop is that right ? TCD
crazyhazey
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yes, grow out desired branches but take the lower branches and one that are shadowed by others will produce airy buds but this can be strain dependent sometimes, but id say if you want to train for efficiency, the general idea is to keep as many useful fan leaves but eliminate too many branches, which we all know turn into bud sites. less bud sites and more fan leaves makes for less trimming and bigger main colas.I,m in agreement 100% about cutting limbs of any plant, what i normaly do is tie them over. it gives me a nice even canopy. So do i just do the same thing, after it,s vegged ? thanks TCD
id say have her vegged and put her in flower once she's half the size you want since that final stretch will give you 2x your original, stay on top of your training and try to only train them as little as possible but efficiently, for example, i will tie mine, wait 5 days until one branch is closer to the light source than the others then bend them back over.
trichomedome
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Yes man yer spot on ??? that,s how i go about it, but this crop i,ve tried a screen ? for the 1st time ? I,ve also tried tying as they grow but found it to be constant tying for no benifit that i could see imo ? thanks TCD
crazyhazey
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it benefits if your constatly making sure all leaves are exposed but touching a plant too much isnt suggested. the only benefit is that you wont only be sending energy to the newest node.
trichomedome
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After 2/3 days the plant is flat and growing evenly i don,t understand what you mean ? Thanks TCD
crazyhazey
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alright, heres an example im doing right now. as you can see shes about ready to be trained around the pot, the highest point is getting a majority of the energy but by giving the nodes exposure i can ensure the lower branches have a fair chance. ill show you how hes doing in another weeks or two, but thats the basic idea.
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trichomedome
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Oh sorry budy i see where you,re coming from. I,ve never tried that method i,ve tied them while still in veg but let them get to 8 or 10 inches. However i,m doing a single plant next time round and i,ll try that method, i know another chap that does it the same as you and he,s tuned in aswell. thanks crazyhazy TCD p.s remember the photo,s in a few weeks lol regards TCD
crazyhazey
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i will, im starting this new method where i train them to grow in a spiral and twist as well so the new stems of the fan leafs are about perpendicular to the pot. my plan in the end is to grow around the whole pot, let branches grow outwards perpendicular to their main branch and tie them down with the screw in anchors you can put on your pots.
if you look at it from the top, its should look like a circle of mainstem with a branch at every node that grows outward, all of these branches going out will be adjusted so all are level with the pot. i would imagine it would resemble a sun that has rays coming from it, but one stem also goes to the middle of the circle. kind of like this
☼ except the lines coming from the circle are branches
the bud on the main stem will hopefully grow around the whole pot and make 1 big bud or i might just train her outward as well when she overlaps where her stem began. in about 3-4 weeks i imagine ill be 3/4 around the pot if all goes well. the picture is just a male, but i like to experiment and if it is efficient enough i will also do it to my females.
i believe this will also help make for more bud spots that grow good sized buds rather than one tight one that can get mold damage.
trichomedome
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I was similar in a certain way budy, there was a time when every single crop had at least 1 plant with experimental value. I,ll be interested on how it goes crazyhazy keep me posted with some photos if you don,t mind ? keep in touch regards TCD p.s take a cut from a female, and copy the method that,s a lot of tending to get binned in the end budy. TCD
crazyhazey
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i know its a lot of work but in the end its worth it, i only like to flower about 4-6 plants a time so im usually pretty on top of it.