best psychedelic for first trip?

My only experience with drugs are nootropics and weed. I rarely smoke casually, mostly when I want a moment to think currently since I'm fascinated by the mind and always thought deep into everything including thinking.

Thing is I feel ready for psychedelics. I'm nearing 25 and I feel like I've been mentally dull the last 4 years, my intrinsic motivation has become weak, my affect has been lost.

From what I can dig up,
Shrooms appear to have a long term effect on personality in ways that I feel like I need. LSD is supposed to change you from one trip they say, and it's a more intellectual high with more control.

My closest psychedelic experience was Piracetam and Noopept taken before smoking. Besides being unable to walk straight or say a full sentence, my perception was on another level and I saw a few flashbacks. Felt like my mind had pieced together all the simple things and intellectually deep stuff of into a matrix. Problem was I felt vulnerable knowing that I couldn't coordinate myself or talk, always thinking how an outside distraction might disturb my thought close and take me where I don't want to go. But in an introverted smoker in general (extrovert sober).

I hope that last bit might help at suggesting whether LSD or Shrooms would suit me.

Another thing, what is better doing to bed on if I want to spend the first half of our awake and the second half possibly on a dream?

I never get nightmares, my subconscious mind is very easy on me, only thing that would make my trip bad is of some stressful distractions get in my way out I feel like I don't have control of myself.

Your not going to be sleeping with either shrooms or lsd until you start coming down. Either of those would be good, LSD was my first and it was fun, I do shrooms a lot now and they are super fun. I'd say do what ever you have available and strap in and have fun.

Mescaline. Nothing better for a first.

Candy flip.

Who the fuck am I kidding..
Look,get a ten strip of acid,some ketamine,an 8ball of molly and lock yourself in your room for a few days...don't come out unless the hookers actually show up...

On the real,get 2 or 3 hits of fluff,and have fun..canndos suggestion is great,but less obtainable for the casual psych-o-naught...but if you can,mescaline...then LSD

rory420420 said:

Candy flip.

Who the fuck am I kidding..
Look,get a ten strip of acid,some ketamine,an 8ball of molly and lock yourself in your room for a few days...don't come out unless the hookers actually show up...

On the real,get 2 or 3 hits of fluff,and have fun..canndos suggestion is great,but less obtainable for the casual psych-o-naught...but if you can,mescaline...then LSD

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Most people thing mushrooms are for beginners. They are not. Not that you can't do it that way but mushrooms are far more powerful and terrible than anything I have taken.

It is indeed mescaline, LSD, mushrooms, DMT. In that order.

canndo said:

Most people thing mushrooms are for beginners. They are not. Not that you can't do it that way but mushrooms are far more powerful and terrible than anything I have taken.

It is indeed mescaline, LSD, mushrooms, DMT. In that order.

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Wow,I guess the girl at firefly who had never smoked pot shouldn't have smoked all that DMT with me then...shucks

rory420420 said:

Wow,I guess the girl at firefly who had never smoked pot shouldn't have smoked all that DMT with me then...shucks

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Yer mean

She was a Falwell follower kid..I couldn't help myself.. especially when I found out she lived across the mountain from my house.. Were practically neighbors,I couldn't be rude!!
BTW,she thanked me and said that it was her best single experience in her life to date..
We still keep in touch,her friend sold me my wsp tickets for 4/20

canndo said:

Yer mean

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That's relative btw...some would think of me as a saint...
In and out of the garden he goes....

I smoked some dmt for the first time last night. It was an awsome experience. What you should start with is totally based on you. What i liked about the dmt was you could blast off into another dimension and be back and feeling fine in 30 mins with like 15min peak. Or you could smoke alil less and have a face melter for a lil bit. You can have multiple small trips of varying intensity in a single night and get a very good judgement of how much you need without getting stuck somewhere you don't want to be for to long. When it was all done i felt an amazing sense of calm.

zchopper420 said:

I smoked some dmt for the first time last night. It was an awsome experience. What you should start with is totally based on you. What i liked about the dmt was you could blast off into another dimension and be back and feeling fine in 30 mins with like 15min peak. Or you could smoke alil less and have a face melter for a lil bit. You can have multiple small trips of varying intensity in a single night and get a very good judgement of how much you need without getting stuck somewhere you don't want to be for to long. When it was all done i felt an amazing sense of calm.

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Calm is all you can have after that crazyness...

zchopper420 said:

I smoked some dmt for the first time last night. It was an awsome experience. What you should start with is totally based on you. What i liked about the dmt was you could blast off into another dimension and be back and feeling fine in 30 mins with like 15min peak. Or you could smoke alil less and have a face melter for a lil bit. You can have multiple small trips of varying intensity in a single night and get a very good judgement of how much you need without getting stuck somewhere you don't want to be for to long. When it was all done i felt an amazing sense of calm.

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I don't know what is best based on me, since I don't know the experience of them. That's why I tried describing some stuff about how I handled the one time smoking with Noopept and Piracetam.

Another thing came to mind, I can get LSD right now but the person who has our days dabs are stronger than LSD, and said it was easy to sleep on LSD which and early reply here was against. Makes me wonder I'd the LSD isn't real.

You won't go to sleep tripping on acid until you come down same with shrooms. are you looking for a complete out of body experience or just warp the reality around you. When you say you want to dream it makes me think your looking for an obo. Acid or mushrooms won't do that unless it's a heroic does. Take a couple rips of dmt close your eyes and lay back and you will visit another reality. If you can get some i think it's a good choice for a first timer even though most would disagree. the effects are full on psychedelic but short lived with minimal side effects if any. And is easy to take a lil taste see where it takes you then up it if you want to go further or say I'm good if you didnt like it. You take some acid start tripping and you don't like it's going to be a looong night. If you want to have some sick ass dreams on a regular start taking coline. If your into nootropics you prob now about that. I have never heard of the substances your taking about so i can't compose those to anything

NootropicUser said:

I don't know what is best based on me, since I don't know the experience of them. That's why I tried describing some stuff about how I handled the one time smoking with Noopept and Piracetam.

Another thing came to mind, I can get LSD right now but the person who has our days dabs are stronger than LSD, and said it was easy to sleep on LSD which and early reply here was against. Makes me wonder I'd the LSD isn't real.

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Get.a.test.kit.
Do it now.don't bullshit yourself into a bad time...
BTW,get a test kit.

zchopper420 said:

You won't go to sleep tripping on acid until you come down same with shrooms. are you looking for a complete out of body experience or just warp the reality around you. When you say you want to dream it makes me think your looking for an obo. Acid or mushrooms won't do that unless it's a heroic does. Take a couple rips of dmt close your eyes and lay back and you will visit another reality. If you can get some i think it's a good choice for a first timer even though most would disagree. the effects are full on psychedelic but short lived with minimal side effects if any. And is easy to take a lil taste see where it takes you then up it if you want to go further or say I'm good if you didnt like it. You take some acid start tripping and you don't like it's going to be a looong night. If you want to have some sick ass dreams on a regular start taking coline. If your into nootropics you prob now about that. I have never heard of the substances your taking about so i can't compose those to anything

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I have an interest in lucid dreaming because I find it interesting how my mind can piece together everything I know and form a simulation of it with seemingly real physics. Figured it would be another way to experience the same trip.

I'd rather warp the reality around me than seem out of body, but I don't want to warp reality where I don't even know where I am and feel like I have no control. I'd like this to warp reality and/or induce deep introspection.


DMT is for another day. I don't think out of body is what I need right now.

Good opium will give you wondrous dreams.

rory420420 said:

That's relative btw...some would think of me as a saint...
In and out of the garden he goes....

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Wherever you go the people all complain?

I agree with Canndo about mescaline first if possible. Otherwise moderate doses of mushrooms or acid. Lower doses of mushrooms are fairly tame but boy can they turn on you at higher doses.

MrEDuck said:

Wherever you go the people all complain?

I agree with Canndo about mescaline first if possible. Otherwise moderate doses of mushrooms or acid. Lower doses of mushrooms are fairly tame but boy can they turn on you at higher doses.

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I think mescaline / peyote is more spiritual than I'm looking for, or what I want to get out of this. Plus I don't know where to get peyote and I'm not doing anything online shipped to my door.

Acid, shrooms, dmt, and ketamine I could get.

MrEDuck said:

Wherever you go the people all complain?

I agree with Canndo about mescaline first if possible. Otherwise moderate doses of mushrooms or acid. Lower doses of mushrooms are fairly tame but boy can they turn on you at higher doses.

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Its not where I go,its when I leave...