you can look at fero or area 51, you can look at my journal with somse of their light. you can also browse through the forum and see what people are using and the results they get, puffenuff is running the apache and other brands while Siddharta uses Blackdog led and also get great big buds. I would recommend going with a reputable companie and long warranty that doesnt require to ship to China if you got problem with the light/s . Stay away from ebay noname brands and cheaper lights. I will upload pictures of the shit in my tent within a few days I have never grown buds so frosty.