Assange Giving himself up.

Balzac89

Undercover Mod
According to leading news sites Assange is currenty making arrangements to be taken by UK Police. To be taken to Sweden to take the rape charges. He is smart because he will get tied up in the Swedish system instead of being taken to U.S. and prosecuted.

Assange should not be charged with any crime, but obviously he did breech Federal Law.

We as Americans should stand up for him. Because I know the majority of Americans think the same way.
 

Nocturn3

Well-Known Member
Good sentiments, and I hope you are right about the majority of Americans feeling the same way.

From what I have been reading, it's unclear if he will face extradition, or whether he will simply have to meet with interpol in the UK for a Q and A session. Also worth noting is that the "rape" was consentual, and the charges actually relate to a non-use of a condom.

I'm curious as to if Assange himself did breach US federal law. As a UK citizen, I am fairly ignorant of US law, can they charge a non-US citizen in this manner? Anyone know the particular law involved?

Anyway, good post. +Rep
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
UMMM how can Assange, a citizen of Australia, be breaking US federal law if he isn't a US citizen? Its like saying some guy in Somalia is Breaking US Federal Law by growing marijuana in his grass hut.

Like Radiate said, ask Marc Emery
 

HowzerMD

Well-Known Member
It's ridiculous to have any legal matters regarding someone not wearing a condom. If it was against her will, it's still rape. But over just not wearing a condom? Horsh-shite through and through. Having sex with another person is at your own risk, and probably the most intimate situation you could be in with some one else. If you've consented to having sex it's kind of at your own fault if said wang isn't wrapped once inserted into said twat. If she didn't want to risk a bare shlong, she shouldn't have let him penetrate in the first place. Plain and simple.
 

Nocturn3

Well-Known Member
Here's the story regarding the "rape"

Lawyer: Sweden investigating Assange for sex without condom

By Daniel Tencer
Thursday, December 2nd, 2010 — 5:15 pm


Prosecutors ‘making it up as they go along’
A lawyer who recently represented Julian Assange says the Swedish sex assault investigation into the WikiLeaks founder is based on claims he didn’t use condoms during sex with two Swedish women.
James D. Catlin, a lawyer in Melbourne, Australia, says in an article published Thursday that Sweden’s justice system is destined to become “the laughingstock of the world” for investigating rape charges in two cases where women complained that Assange had had sex with them without using a condom.
Catlin, who confirmed to Raw Story that Assange retained his services for a “limited duration” in October but did not provide details, also said both of the accusers “boast[ed] of their respective conquests” after the alleged crimes had been committed. “The Swedes are making it up as they go along,” he wrote.
Catlin’s claims are likely to add fuel to speculation that Sweden’s investigation of Assange is politically motivated.
He writes:
Apparently having consensual sex in Sweden without a condom is punishable by a term of imprisonment of a minimum of two years for rape. That is the basis for a reinstitution of rape charges against WikiLeaks figurehead Julian Assange that is destined to make Sweden and its justice system the laughing stock of the world and dramatically damage its reputation as a model of modernity.
Sweden’s Public Prosecutor’s Office was embarrassed in August this year when it leaked to the media that it was seeking to arrest Assange for rape, then on the same day withdrew the arrest warrant because in its own words there was “no evidence”. The damage to Assange’s reputation is incalculable. More than three quarters of internet references to his name refer to rape. Now, three months on and three prosecutors later, the Swedes seem to be clear on their basis to proceed. Consensual sex that started out with a condom ended up without one, ergo, the sex was not consensual.
Catlin’s article appeared Thursday in the Australian online current affairs site Crikey.
He argued that Sweden has been pushed into a corner by the investigation and has found itself moving forward with a flimsy case because, in this day and age of social networking news and instant communication, prosecutors can’t add new evidence without publicly discrediting themselves.
Catlin also said that the two alleged victims — whom he names in the article — boasted of their sexual “conquests” online after the incidents took place.
They sought advice together, having collaborated and irrevocably tainted each other’s evidence beforehand. Their SMS texts to each other show a plan to contact the Swedish newspaper Expressen beforehand in order to maximise the damage to Assange. They belong to the same political group and attended a public lecture given by Assange and organised by them.
According to an August report in the Daily Mail, both of the accusers’ complaints stem from lack of condom use. In the case of “Woman A,” as the Daily Mail identifies her, a condom broke during intercourse. In the case of “Woman B,” Assange reportedly did not use a condom during a second round of intercourse.
Catlin states that neither of the women’s police statements “complain of rape.”
“But then neither [of the accusers] complained to the police but rather ‘sought advice,’ a technique in Sweden enabling citizens to avoid just punishment for making false complaints,” Catlin alleges.
Catlin promises that, as the investigation goes on, it will reveal “damning evidence” about “what passes for legal process in Sweden.” Even though the investigation has been ongoing since August, he says Assange’s lawyers didn’t receive any documents from prosecutors until November 18, and then the documents were only in Swedish, “contrary to European Law.”
When the investigation was first announced in August, Assange said the timing — which seemed to coincide with the release of a cache of Afghanistan-related documents — was “deeply disturbing.” He has speculated that the Pentagon may have been behind the investigation.
 

NLXSK1

Well-Known Member
UMMM how can Assange, a citizen of Australia, be breaking US federal law if he isn't a US citizen? Its like saying some guy in Somalia is Breaking US Federal Law by growing marijuana in his grass hut.

Like Radiate said, ask Marc Emery
How can Osama Bin Laden break US federal law if he isnt a US citizen?
 

beardo

Well-Known Member
So it is a law to wear a condom in sweden? they don't want anymore swedish people? I don't understand this one. Is everyone soposed to wear condoms? even if it is your wife?
 

six8

Well-Known Member
this kat is guilty of espionage. i haven't read any of the reports which probably doesn't give me a full outlook to base my opinion. but i haven't heard anything about american war crimes being committed. if he is exposing top secret information about the US and any other country it is espionage and the private who gave him the info is also guilty.
 

Japanfreak

New Member
this kat is guilty of espionage. i haven't read any of the reports which probably doesn't give me a full outlook to base my opinion. but i haven't heard anything about american war crimes being committed. if he is exposing top secret information about the US and any other country it is espionage and the private who gave him the info is also guilty.
No he isn't. The army guy who stole the shit and gave it to him is though.
 
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