Anyone have experience with ULV foggers for pesticides?

I'm looking at something like this:
Applying pesticides, even organic ones, is a real bitch with spray bottles. Even the pressurized ones with a hose. Spray under the leaves for mites? How do you do that without spraying your lights and all of your electrical shit on the ceiling? The commercial gardens use fogging systems via pipes run around the perimeter of the room. On a smaller scale a hand held unit seems to be the way to go, but I have no experience with one of these. It says you can use organic / inorganic pesticides which would provide flexibility using different products. The coverage seems more thorough, the application is quicker, and is no flash flood to cleanup on your floor when you've dumped 2 gallons of pesticide on your plants.

There's a stainless steel ULV fogger for around $280 on amazon that you just set on the ground and run it. I don't think that would be more effective than the wand though. With the wand you can walk around and hit everything directly. The stationary unit might be good for sanitizing solutions, but I think it would be a poor choice for pesticides.

I'm thinking of pulling the trigger on one of these today. I'm done with spray bottles and cleaning it up off my floor. Not to mention it's horribly inefficient.

Graco airless paint sprayers seem popular, work well. I haven't noticed anything going wrong yet but the led lights do get a bit wet, I haven't heard of other people having many problems accidentally spraying led lights a bit, maybe I'm just ignorant and lucky though and need to be warned off of it?

There's also the one shot BASF Pyrethrum TR Fogger cans.

XtraGood said:

Graco airless paint sprayers seem popular, work well. I haven't noticed anything going wrong yet but the led lights do get a bit wet, I haven't heard of other people having many problems accidentally spraying led lights a bit, maybe I'm just ignorant and lucky though and need to be warned off of it?

There's also the one shot BASF Pyrethrum TR Fogger cans.

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I used a pump sprayer and hosed my qb down trying to spray the leaf bottoms. No more of that. I had to go at it with spray bottles since then. Nightmare. I like the idea of a paint sprayer quite a bit. I'm sure a Graco product would last a lot longer than the chinese fogger special on amazon. My only concern is it may produce more of a fine mist rather than a fog. My low ceilings really suck. If I didn't have electric junction boxes on the ceiling I would probably run with the paint sprayer, but I think I'll have to stick with a fogger so I don't soak any sensitive areas. The dam fogger will make my life so much easier I'd buy one every year if I had to. $118.99 is absolutely worth making my life easier.

I like what's in the Pyrethrum fogger. I don't like the horrible inefficiency of them. $25 for a single can is insane. After 5 cans I could have paid for the fogger outright. I run an IPM program every 3-4 days in my veg and flower room so a unit I can fill with my own solution will be the most efficient way to solve the problem. There's a great product called Pyganic I'm thinking of running through the fogger. I hear it's used extensively in Colorado indoor gardens.

As far as water on the qb - most are waterproof coated so you won't hurt anything there. As long as no mist gets on your drivers you shouldn't have a problem.

Fogger was a bust. Wind burned the shit out of my plants. Took a week to bounce back. I ordered the wagner electric paint sprayer and it is phenomenal. Beautiful mist output that's adjustable and the spray only goes maybe 24" at the most. No risk of hitting the lights or electrical. I love it.

If you have a pest problem, these things probably aren't going to work long term. They might help temporarily.

The best way to deal with pest is to not have them, but I don't care who you are, where you are from, or how clean your room is, its not a matter of if but when. Even though my garden is clean, I always treat it as if its not.

First thing to do is have a floor where moisture wont hurt. Then get an IPM. I haven't seen a bug bite or PM patch in many years but I religiously spray my veg room with IPM 2x a week. A cheap paint sprayer from harbor freight works well for me. 1ml of IPM per gallon of water, spray and blow the shit out of them. Moister will evaporate with in the next couple hours. No mites, alpheids, gnats, PM, of any other creature that will hinder your grow.

Also, every cut gets dipped in IPM before the plug. Every rooted clone gets dipped before the transplant, and like I said, very plant is blasted 2x a week. I have the comfort of knowing I will never have a bug or PM issue while spending minimal time being preventative.

Suffoil-x is what I highly recommend. Athena makes an IPM spray that I have heard good things about but never tried. Good luck.

OG-KGP said:

If you have a pest problem, these things probably aren't going to work long term. They might help temporarily.

The best way to deal with pest is to not have them, but I don't care who you are, where you are from, or how clean your room is, its not a matter of if but when. Even though my garden is clean, I always treat it as if its not.

First thing to do is have a floor where moisture wont hurt. Then get an IPM. I haven't seen a bug bite or PM patch in many years but I religiously spray my veg room with IPM 2x a week. A cheap paint sprayer from harbor freight works well for me. 1ml of IPM per gallon of water, spray and blow the shit out of them. Moister will evaporate with in the next couple hours. No mites, alpheids, gnats, PM, of any other creature that will hinder your grow.

Also, every cut gets dipped in IPM before the plug. Every rooted clone gets dipped before the transplant, and like I said, very plant is blasted 2x a week. I have the comfort of knowing I will never have a bug or PM issue while spending minimal time being preventative.

Suffoil-x is what I highly recommend. Athena makes an IPM spray that I have heard good things about but never tried. Good luck.

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I'm grabbing 2.5 gallons of the Suffoil-x from grow green. I really appreciate the recommendation. 1ml/gallon is all I need to use?

OG-KGP said:

If you have a pest problem, these things probably aren't going to work long term. They might help temporarily.

The best way to deal with pest is to not have them, but I don't care who you are, where you are from, or how clean your room is, its not a matter of if but when. Even though my garden is clean, I always treat it as if its not.

First thing to do is have a floor where moisture wont hurt. Then get an IPM. I haven't seen a bug bite or PM patch in many years but I religiously spray my veg room with IPM 2x a week. A cheap paint sprayer from harbor freight works well for me. 1ml of IPM per gallon of water, spray and blow the shit out of them. Moister will evaporate with in the next couple hours. No mites, alpheids, gnats, PM, of any other creature that will hinder your grow.

Also, every cut gets dipped in IPM before the plug. Every rooted clone gets dipped before the transplant, and like I said, very plant is blasted 2x a week. I have the comfort of knowing I will never have a bug or PM issue while spending minimal time being preventative.

Suffoil-x is what I highly recommend. Athena makes an IPM spray that I have heard good things about but never tried. Good luck.

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Any issues/precautions with using suffoil-x during flowering?

Bubbles32 said:

Any issues/precautions with using suffoil-x during flowering?

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Honestly, I don't know. I only use in veg. Clean plants in = clean plants out. Well, not always but works for me so far. Knocks on wood.