tommyinajar
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I just saw a mix on JR's page for veggies, anyone has their own, Jr's seems low on Epsom and no acid.
Anyone have a Jack's 123 mix for Tomato's, or is it the same as Mary Jane?
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Billy the Mountain
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Jack's is a 3 part mix, one component is Epsom salt.
tommyinajar
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What are you talking about in English- The Tomato is just A&B for Tomato's, no Epsom. That should have been obvious if you were on their website
Herb & Suds
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Billy the Mountain
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You said Jacks's 123 which I assumed was 321 which is their most popular mix and you were using it w/ tomatoes.
I'm unaware of a tomato-specific Jack's fertilizer, you got a link of what you're using?
English is my first language and I'm fairly proficient, thanks.
Creature1969
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I feed everything with the Jack's 321 runoff from my coco grows. Tomatoes, peppers, roses, houseplants, etc.
The only issues I've had is needing to boost the CalciNit on occasion when feeding low EC runoff to tomatoes to prevent blossom end rot.
The only issues I've had is needing to boost the CalciNit on occasion when feeding low EC runoff to tomatoes to prevent blossom end rot.
LeastExpectedGrower
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I use 20/20/20 on my tomatoes and other general vegetable garden plants (though not specifically Jacks). Works perfectly. Also it's the same thing I use on raspberry, blackberry & elderberry plants.
lusidghost
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I have a ton of wild black raspberry and raspberry bushes surrounding my property. I walk around in a robe during early summer mornings eating berries off of bushes like a monk. I also have a row of blueberries, but they require work. I've been meaning to figure out what type of nutrients they require.
twentyeight.threefive
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Instead of being a douche with your reply perhaps you should have included a link for reference for what you were talking about. Context is great.
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xtsho
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Jacks 5-12-26 has around 4.5% magnesium. If you need to add more just do a foliar of 1 tsp epsom salt per gallon of water every other week and you'll be fine. Or just add some directly to your nutrient solution. You likely won't need to add any additional which is why they don't have it listed in the feeding schedule for fruiting crops.
Blueberries like an acidic soil around 4.5 - 5.5. After I added elemental sulfur a few years ago to the soil around mine they've really taken off. I also mulch with pine needles which have a low pH and fertilize in early spring before the leaves grow in with a high nitrogen fertilizer. Off of 2 bushes we get more blueberries than the two of us can eat at once and end up freezing a ton.
lusidghost
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My dog loves blueberries. He guards his supply. There were a ton, but they were all small. This year I want fat berries. I'm going to go find some pine branches in a little bit.
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xtsho
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Nice looking dog. Different varieties of blueberries have different sized berries. I'm growing Chandlers which at the time I bought them claimed to be the largest variety. They're big but I think smaller varieties have better flavor.
lusidghost
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There were some big ones, so I don't think it's the genetics. We put up a net and pruned a bit the past couple of years, but it's mostly been on the back burner. Even still, they produce enough to cover four people and a dog all year long. My parents and a friend come up and take as many as the can, and there are always a lot left for the birds afterwards. If I actually gave the plants some real attention I could probably make decent money selling them.
LeastExpectedGrower
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We have a bunch of the native 'black-cap' wild black raspberries in the 'rough' around our yard (we have a few acres). When we bought the house and moved in, I spent the first 3 or so years adding raspberry & blackberry root stock throughout the perimeter too. There's currently twenty something bushes and multiple varieties of them. Currently 5 elderberry plants of 2 different varieties (they need that to pollinate) and I also just put in 3 mulberry saplings that I grew from root stock. Its a waiting game because it takes a few years for the berries to really produce well.
I can't do blueberries because the deer are super-aggressive punks and will eat them all in moments. They're also poorly read as well and also eat plants that are supposedly 'deer proof' like the elderberries. I spend a whole lot of time spraying to keep the deer at bay. Our vegetables are all fenced.
Last summer I was getting about a pint a day during the summer, but also having a fall harvest late October of a good amount. We also still pick the wild berries on the property too.
Its all a part of me trying to get our property to produce for us along the way but in the landscape, rather than cultivated rows, etc. We also have bee hives and all that.
lusidghost
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We have a vast army of deer here that terrorize everything, but they don't seem to mess with the blueberries for whatever reason. I want some beehives. I really just want an excuse to wear a beekeeper suit and blow smoke on them.
LeastExpectedGrower
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I've been doing bees for a few years. I have 2 hives, which is enough for me in terms of workload/hassle as well as honey production. Last winter/spring the hives did really well and by late spring the hives were fuller than they like and the bees were just grumpy and you really didn't want to get too close to that part of our property without protection. The rest of the year you can pretty much just walk right up to the hive without issues.
Similar to growing there's regular weekly stuff then stuff you do seasonally. Hive inspections weekly once it's warm out, where you're pulling boxes and looking at frames, etc. Then I treat for pests about 4x a year (formic acid treatment during active/warm season, each treatment lasting a few weeks), then Oxalic acid treatment during non-productive-brood season (done with a vaporizer). Last year with 2 hives we harvested 130 pounds of honey. I don't really want any more than that because I don't want to sell it or make it a side-hustle.
This winter I lost one of my colonies; not surprised since the queen was 2 years old, and at the very end of viability), but the other with a 1-year old queen is strong. I was in the hive on Sunday and they were perky and annoyed. I supplied them with pollen patties to encourage spring egg laying.
Like growing there's an initial buy-in for gear, and all...if you're going to do it, budget ~$1000 to get off the ground with one hive. Then adding hives plan on maybe 300-400 each for hardware, depending on if you buy it assembled, or not, or painted or not, etc.
You know, you can just buy the suit and the smoker and dance about your yard without the hives.
This winter/spring I haven't bought anything, though I will buys some formic treatments and a few other bits and pieces. I won't even buy a new colony for my now-empty hive...I'll take some frames of brood(eggs/larvae/bees) from the active one and transfer them to the empty one then wait...and they'll make/raise their own queen and be off to the races again.
potpimp
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Good Gosh, which Jacks grew these? I'm about to pull the trigger on some when I find out which one. Thanks.Jacks 5-12-26 has around 4.5% magnesium. If you need to add more just do a foliar of 1 tsp epsom salt per gallon of water every other week and you'll be fine. Or just add some directly to your nutrient solution. You likely won't need to add any additional which is why they don't have it listed in the feeding schedule for fruiting crops.
Blueberries like an acidic soil around 4.5 - 5.5. After I added elemental sulfur a few years ago to the soil around mine they've really taken off. I also mulch with pine needles which have a low pH and fertilize in early spring before the leaves grow in with a high nitrogen fertilizer. Off of 2 bushes we get more blueberries than the two of us can eat at once and end up freezing a ton.
xtsho
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That's all organic. It helps that they're one of the biggest blueberries as far as berry size in the world.
Jacks has a blend they developed just for blueberries though.
25-9-17 Berry Special
25-9-17 Berry Special - Jack's Professional | Allentown | JR Peters
This formulation originally developed for Blueberry bushes can be used on all berry crops. It is an acidic fertilizer designed to facilitate the uptake of all the major, secondary and trace nutrients. Learn more about this products' features and benefits here!
www.jrpeters.com