Nirvana 2 times, well three but the california orange didnt do well for me at all, papaya and white widow they were both very nice plants, good germ yeilds and female to male ratios. i think i would go to marijuana-seed.nl before i would go back to Nirvana unless it was for one of these stains. marijuana-seeds.nl has some really nice ICE. my ICE plants are structured like a sativa but they have very dense indica nugs, with many trichs, very indica buzz, and tastes like disel feul. it sounds crazy but its actually really good. i bought their THC BOMB too but i really wasnt impressed. it might do well for others though. i guess it just wasnt my strain. the small amount i did get off it was was some really good smoke, it was kinda sweet and indica. i only got 2 fems outa 10 seeds. you can get good seeds from any place on the net that sells genetics. sometimes, imo it just depends on what strain you pick from the breeder of your choice. peace