Anybody grow the Amanita Muscaria?

GrnMonStr

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I never grew shrooms before, just researching it last few weeks and I did read the excellent post here by canndo. So I was just curious if there were anything to do different growing the Amanita Muscaria? Any tips would be appreciated.
 
MAD.SCIENTIST

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My understanding is that you can't grow amanita muscaria indoors. It grows alongside the live roots of birch trees and oak trees.
It needs the roots to give it certain nutrients. I made up some spore water a few years ago and sprinkled the water around in a piece of woodland where there is lots of silver birch, but it seems no mushrooms grew there from that spore water as far as I could tell.
I think amanita muscaria is just one of those mushrooms that you have to find growing wild, just like liberty cap mushrooms (psilocybe semilanceata). There are a few types of psilocybin mushrooms that you can quite easily get spores for online, that grow easily enough indoors, but you have to keep everything very clean and sterile until the grow medium is fully colonised.
 
GrnMonStr

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Yeah I was thinking of doing indoors too. Interesting I am getting the liquid culture if this helps. But any outdoor advice I would be interested in also. Is it too late in the year for that? I guess I need to research this way more.
 
conor c

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GrnMonStr said:
Yeah I was thinking of doing indoors too. Interesting I am getting the liquid culture if this helps. But any outdoor advice I would be interested in also. Is it too late in the year for that? I guess I need to research this way more.
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I don't think anyone grows it indoors or at all like they said it's always tied to a symbiotic relationship with a couple of tree species honestly you would be better growing cubensis or if your outdoors one of the other wood lovers you would have more success than way anyway where I live you can occasionally find aminata muscaria in the wild i never heard of anyone growing them though just like liberty caps that way there tied to decaying grass no one cultivates them
 
canndo

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GrnMonStr said:
I never grew shrooms before, just researching it last few weeks and I did read the excellent post here by canndo. So I was just curious if there were anything to do different growing the Amanita Muscaria? Any tips would be appreciated.
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While it may well be possible to domesticate this species, I do not recommend this as your starter mushroom.

Try a well established cubensis like golden teacher or an Amazon type.

Or you could try an oyster mushroom. They will grow in spite of your errors and they taste quite good! You can use the ones you buy at the store to start yout tissue culture.

And thanks for the complement. It seems that many have had good results and harvested enough for many personal experiences.
 
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canndo

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GrnMonStr said:
I guess I will just dump the liquid culture under my pine tree and top it off with some compost.
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Some have had success with "slurries" of spores from morels drenching different environments at the proper time of year.

I once got a crop of cubensis from drenching my back yard with dense liquid culture in early spring.


There is no reason muscaria...which can be quite prolific, might not grow using this brute force method.
 
canndo

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GrnMonStr said:
Yeah I was thinking of doing indoors too. Interesting I am getting the liquid culture if this helps. But any outdoor advice I would be interested in also. Is it too late in the year for that? I guess I need to research this way more.
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What ever lc you purchase will not be nearly enough to drench various areas. Learn to amplify your culture into a number of quarts or gallons.
 
GrnMonStr

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canndo said:
What ever lc you purchase will not be nearly enough to drench various areas. Learn to amplify your culture into a number of quarts or gallons.
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I am going to do that. I think this will be the first thing I research more but so far I am reading that a 4% Karo light clear syrup to water and I suppose I let it build up and repeat to a larger jar over time.
 
GrnMonStr

GrnMonStr

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canndo said:
While it may well be possible to domesticate this species, I do not recommend this as your starter mushroom.

Try a well established cubensis like golden teacher or an Amazon type.

Or you could try an oyster mushroom. They will grow in spite of your errors and they taste quite good! You can use the ones you buy at the store to start yout tissue culture.

And thanks for the complement. It seems that many have had good results and harvested enough for many personal experiences.
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Welcome. I read a few of your posts helping members here out on this topic; Good Stuff thank you again. I did get GT's also.
 
GrnMonStr

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Budget Buds said:
You cannot cultivate it, you have to forage for it....... Go find a bunch in the late summer/early fall and dry it out for usage all year
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OK thanks for the suggestion. We just had like two weeks of rain it seems off and on and I have been seeing other shrooms flowering so maybe now is a good time to go.
 
GrnMonStr

GrnMonStr

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MAD.SCIENTIST said:
My understanding is that you can't grow amanita muscaria indoors. It grows alongside the live roots of birch trees and oak trees.
It needs the roots to give it certain nutrients. I made up some spore water a few years ago and sprinkled the water around in a piece of woodland where there is lots of silver birch, but it seems no mushrooms grew there from that spore water as far as I could tell.
I think amanita muscaria is just one of those mushrooms that you have to find growing wild, just like liberty cap mushrooms (psilocybe semilanceata). There are a few types of psilocybin mushrooms that you can quite easily get spores for online, that grow easily enough indoors, but you have to keep everything very clean and sterile until the grow medium is fully colonised.
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LOL, Thanks I had no idea. It was an impulse purchase on my part. Thanks for the info.
 
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Budget Buds

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conor c said:
That must have been nasty lol are mushrooms even active if you smoke em ?
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No.......
GrnMonStr said:
OK thanks for the suggestion. We just had like two weeks of rain it seems off and on and I have been seeing other shrooms flowering so maybe now is a good time to go.
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Up here they are prolific when the night temps start to dip into the 40s at night, I see them all over super late summer/ early fall in N. Michigan. Dont buy mushroom gummies or things like that, your usually gonna get ripped off or worse, you dont know what is really in them, they will start fruiting soon, in an afternoon of foraging you could easily have enough to store for years of use, although I doubt you'll eat them more than once, they make you sweat and will make you sick (my experience) but do have a calming effect
 
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Budget Buds

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GrnMonStr said:
I am going to do that. I think this will be the first thing I research more but so far I am reading that a 4% Karo light clear syrup to water and I suppose I let it build up and repeat to a larger jar over time.
Also 4% is way too much imo, I use 2% and have no issues
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conor c

conor c

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Budget Buds said:
No.......

Up here they are prolific when the night temps start to dip into the 40s at night, I see them all over super late summer/ early fall in N. Michigan. Dont buy mushroom gummies or things like that, your usually gonna get ripped off or worse, you dont know what is really in them, they will start fruiting soon, in an afternoon of foraging you could easily have enough to store for years of use, although I doubt you'll eat them more than once, they make you sweat and will make you sick (my experience) but do have a calming effect
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Yeah I'd have thought the heat would render it inactive
 
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