About HomoSexuality

Prophecy

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My current view about Homosexuality.

I think at least 8 out 10 homosexual persons are mentally manipulated into being that way by their environment or an ill minded person. In other words, I think homosexuality is a predominately nurtured condition rather than a natured or natural condition. In other words, I believe homosexuality is primarily learned. It seems to me that the natural manifestation of it (as oppose to the spiritual nature of it) is influenced by a combination of (situational or circumstantial mental and physiological development of the human body) natural chemical process that periodically occur within the human body similar to, if not exactly like the physiological conditioning that takes place during puberty.

The chemical disposition of the human body is always changing, however, in this example, I will recognize two climax that take place after birth: during adolescent (puberty) and during adulthood (rights of passage). These are the physiological aspects of this combination.

The second part of the combination is pertaining to the brain and the mind. As many ought to know, the mind is generally associated to the brain; and the brain is obviously naturally connected to the human body’s physiological system. Therefore, as the physiological system evolves over the years, it is safe to say the brain does also; this change affects the brain from the inside of the body. The mind on the other hand is affected by the various things on the outside of the body; things that exist within our environments and/or cultures. Mindfully speaking, I believe those who are physically gay or in question of their sexuality are experiencing a bout similar to an identity crisis that is the result of not essentially knowing who they really are (as in delusion); and likely because of some degree of emotional trauma, neglect and/or ignorance (lacking knowledge of something).

Self-discipline is very important in life; unless you have discipline over your self (the natural impulses), you will have discipline over nothing that affects you. Self-discipline is also a very important/essential factor in homosexuality and every other abuse/trauma, lust, carnality or addiction; some homosexual’s may feel (en)trapped because they physically acted out and someone in their mind is manipulated that act. These types of friends and/or family are not necessarily healthy for your essential well being righteous development ( this is not to say that that the friend or family member or whatever is conscience of what they do themselves or how they conduct themselves pertaining to themselves let alone you; this is why it is important for you, the actual individual to take initiative and control over your mind/own life’s understanding/destiny). This is not calling you to bring premature judgment of such people before you take the time to bring the appropriate (super)natural) order into your life: mind, body, soul that you may take the necessary time to collect your thoughts without burning any unnecessary bridges.

“The Truth shall set you free”, even if it hurts at first; eventually you will heal if you sincerely and consistently seek out the sources of your setbacks; no one can do this more fundamentally than a personal relationship with God. Personally, I believe gay acts are a result from lust or a lack of understanding of God’s love and sexual discipline; a lack of self-realization and self-identity. I say this because most people today are looking for love in man; without first understanding and realizing the God from which it originate.
“To the left, to the left.”

As with any problem the way to the solution is to research relative knowledge; knowledge to resolve the emotional problem/trauma, to fulfill the shortcoming. An answer with this “gender” of people is to seek information that will enlighten and provide understanding to who their original being is, their essence. Obviously, the first step to healing or curing a problem is to admit or realize that there is a problem/challenge and developing a righteous or clear path that you can take to establish resolve from the inside out intrinsic to extrinsic). Remember, you can’t run and hide from yourself; and justifying hurting yourself because it seems that everybody else is hurting you, ultimately is not the right reaction for you. Remember the evil one wants you to harm yourself for his/her/its self righteous glorification; this is done to steal your true destiny; Thus act best, you must rebuke and resist him/her/it and get your mind right; “The Truth shall set you free”.

Some start up references: Things related to Emotional Intelligence; the philosophy of Aristotle, and ultimately the Divine Truth of God. Jesus Christ is right and he loves you if you let him, regardless of your history or what man says against you.

The true test: If you can honestly measure/contrast your attitude (mind state) and behavior with the Divine Truth; and maintain “the essence” of your sexuality, then according to my philosophy, your faith in the Truth has or will deliver (validate) you. Regardless of what others say God, the Divine Truth in your heart; and God, the Divine Truth in your mind from heaven (and his Word) approves of you. The confirmation of your sexuality being right is to make sure your standards are not superficial, carnal or a lie: the mind can be a delusional thing.

I believe the church should accept homosexual people, but to challenge them with the Holy Spirit lead Virtue of God, as they would any person. If they can stand the refining Fire of God's Holy Word and Spirit, then their faith has delivered them. But, ultimately, a personal relationship developed/matured/established from you reading the Word of God/Truth and being faithful to his Spirit as it is revealed on your conscience will be your fortified mind/destiny.

If you are homosexual or are having homosexual thoughts; I suggest that you give it three to five years of diligent soul searching before you act on it (again).


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BreatheSmoke

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That is a a complicated way of saying something so simple and obvious.. People are not born gay, they are influenced by things like that song.. I Kissed a Girl..

Ever since that song came out, I see all of these little girls confused about their sexual orientation on Yahoo Answers... Kind of funny if you ask me... How manipulative the media can be. I see absolutely nothing wrong with being gay though. If 'God' didn't want gay people, then he wouldn't have made the human mind so complex. Yeaaahhh he gave us freewill, but you can come up with defenses for a mythological concept all day. The whole Christian point of view is illogical at best. It's not like gay people are unhappy with who they are, so let them be.
 

poutineeh

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Does this guy actually grow/smoke weed, or is he just going around the internet spreading his ignorant message? Don't judge someone till you've walked a mile in their shoes. Shouldnt someone who has created the universe have the capacity to love everyone equally? Don't come back with "he loves them all, but they're still burning in hell" cause thats rubbish and imho, dumb.
 

brendon420

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thats what im wondering. what the shell.... who cares about sexual orientation. its quite annoying how people make such a big deal about it.
 

brendon420

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If you are homosexual or are having homosexual thoughts; I suggest that you give it three to five years of diligent soul searching before you act on it (again).

this is my fav part. what an a ignoramus
 

brendon420

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I believe the church should accept homosexual people, but to challenge them with the Holy Spirit lead Virtue of God, as they would any person. If they can stand the refining Fire of God's Holy Word and Spirit, then their faith has delivered them.


and this...fire???GOD AND FIRE??? no, not at all, not ever, you are wrong, fire is the devil and you're saying your god is the devil.. your god is hateful and a figment of your ego.
 

BreatheSmoke

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and I thought that this place was relatively free of religious fruitcakes.

"God is dead, and no one cares.. If there is a Hell, I'll see you there."
 

EarthlyPassions

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LULZ, PROPHET, I HAVE COME TO DISPUTE YOU AS A FELLOW CHRISTIAN. <3

While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I also feel entitled not to allow you to be the only example of what Christianity can be.

There is a wonderful Christian website that not only accepts Gays and Lesbians, but seeks to undo the damage that's caused to the Queer community by the line of thinking that you're copy-pasting in different threads.
http://www.gaychristian.net/

Too many Christian families have been fooled into thinking that they can 'reclaim' their child from homosexuality or transgender-ness (pardon my jargon), or that they are somehow responsible for these things.

It's been proven that the tactics that are used to change these traits in people are not only ineffective, but all-around harmful to the people they are trying to change. Gentile mutilation and suicide were the only real, reliable results from 'straight-camps' that these poor families would unsuspectingly send their children to, hoping to be returned a normal, heterosexual.

The post links to a study by Dr Ariel Shidlo and Dr. Michael Schroeder called "Changing Sexual Orientation: a consumer's report" that was published in a peer reviewed journal in 2001.

Here are some findings from the study:

Study subjects: 202
Number that were no longer struggling and were fully heterosexual: 8
Of those 8, number that were not employees or volunteers of ex-gay groups: 1
Number that felt they had failed: 176
Number who felt conversion had done long term harm: 155
Number who attempted suicide during therapy: 23
Number who attempted suicide after therapy: 11
Number who reported spiritual harm: 100Brady concludes,
So, according to this study, 1 person (arguably 8) of 202 were turned straight through therapy--a result I'd imagine was the goal of the people that entered the ex-gay therapies. At the same time, 100 had their faith dramatically harmed by therapy (if you're Christian, we're talking about their salvation here). And nearly 4 times the number that turned straight tried to kill themselves during therapy.
*Link: Peterson Toscano's A Musing: Ex-Gay Statistics 101

So, while it is not at all effective, (less than one out of a hundred reads FAILURE to me) these poisonous ideals continue to live on. Without reason or even love to back them, where is God in all this? I can't say for sure, but I'll bet He's not happy with the people who perpetuate this nonsense.



 
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BreatheSmoke

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But it's just hilarious how religious people come up with excuses for everything...

Like... They say that the fossils are there because Satan planted them to try to confuse us into not believing God..
 

brendon420

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haha that is funny, the battle over evolution is quite comical, there are a lot of documentaries on the subject, and theyre all pretty clear cut. lol christianity has to attack charles darwin, not the subject of evolution because they have no argument.
 

BreatheSmoke

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Yeah.. Their favorite argument - EVOLUTION IS JUST A THEORY!!

Oh but an ancient book is just solid proof of everything right...
 

EarthlyPassions

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I've always thought of evolution being God's automated updates system. See, I believe in science, I just also believe that God is behind it all.

The dominos are falling, but God is the one who started the chain reaction. (In my mind)

I used to have a theory, that God was a self-aware energy. Since energy can't be created or destroyed, it's all around us, constantly shifting and changing forms, (Potential to Kinetic, Heat to Mechanical) it's a part of everything we do, it's how we get nutrition from our food, it's how we grow and develop.
I stopped thinking that way when my religion teacher chewed me out for it. Heretic, blah, blah, blah, false prophet, blah, blah, blah.
 

BreatheSmoke

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I've always thought of evolution being God's automated updates system. See, I believe in science, I just also believe that God is behind it all.

The dominos are falling, but God is the one who started the chain reaction. (In my mind)

I used to have a theory, that God was a self-aware energy. Since energy can't be created or destroyed, it's all around us, constantly shifting and changing forms, (Potential to Kinetic, Heat to Mechanical) it's a part of everything we do, it's how we get nutrition from our food, it's how we grow and develop.
I stopped thinking that way when my religion teacher chewed me out for it. Heretic, blah, blah, blah, false prophet, blah, blah, blah.
I think you should stick with your previous theory.. Don't listen to your religion teacher... seriously. What does he/she know? It sounds to me like you are not completely sure of yourself when you call yourself a Christian. You don't HAVE to choose an organized religion to follow.
 

EarthlyPassions

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I know it's my choice, but I feel like everything is less perilous if I can stay under the constraints of some sort of guidelines. My mind tends to wander, if I just gave it free reign I'm not sure where I'd end up!

Christianity is a good, grounding religion if you can sort out the core values from the shit followers have added on. These values are things that I feel enhance my life and make me a better person.

Love people, forgive people, don't judge people, Amen. (and if you screw up you can try again.) LOL
 

sarah22

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i think that religion is something that was created by the people in charge as a way to try and keep the general public "in line". if you watch the documentary zeitgeist...it starts to make a bit more sense. christianity is basically old egypt religion with new names. and all of it was derived from the stars. constellations...not actual events. the doc. also goes on to explain all the similarities in different religions from around the world. its really quite fascinating. i would recommend everyone check it out.
 

sarah22

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and on the topic of homosexuality...some people are scared of accepting it because it means change. people are afraid of change, and they're afraid of the world evolving and growing. they want things to stay the way its always been...well to those people...give it up. humanity is evolving and growing every minute of everyday. get over it and move on. things have to change its part of the life cycle.
 
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