good points! Wrong. So please do not pretend to support any of the clan on any other forum. We do not support this kind of thinking.
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Dude please take the time to actually read and understand this thread and the Michigan laws you speak of. We are clearly talking about criminal law, criminal charges and criminal law enforcement here, NOT MMMA. MMMA is simply civil law that relates to licensing as administered LARA, aka Michigan's Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, get it? You don't go to jail for that type of shit. This confident ignorance being preyed on is exactly what I am trying to address here, as it is truly what is wrong with this country.
This is the Michigan section of the medical marijuana forum, and the people at question here were all patients/caregivers, so discussing the MMMA is very relevant. I stated up front that them using the law as cover for what they were doing was my main beef. If they want to roll the dice and grow hundreds of pounds of weed then that's their prerogative. I don't inherently have any issue with that. I'm not going to pretend that it's a bright move given the current law and the over zealous enforcement of it though.
Anyone who doesn't hate Obama at this point probably is unaware of the things he's stood for. That's all I can assume. His position that the executive can decide who lives or dies is particularly disturbing. Especially given the legal argument he used for it - that due process and judicial process aren't the same thing and the constitution doesn't guarantee the latter. The extension of that argument is that the executive can do anything it pleases to it's citizens.
As far as black and white portrayal, I suggest looking into the mirror. Profits aren't evil and neither is working to provide medicine for people. 2400 a unit in the United States is pretty cheap last I checked. Units go for 1000 around here. Black market, people trying to make a living (because it's difficult to make a living doing other things these days, have fun finding a job) .
Yet still, supply and demand brings the price way down. Large scale producers such as the above do just that. Bring prices down, whether they want to or not. And this is good for patients (and all really), especially those who can't grow themselves for whatever reason.
You're sitting here acting like it's wrong to want to live comfortably. To not have to stress about paying bills and/or unforeseen disasters because you have the cash in the bank to deal with them. And that requires quite a bit of cash these days. Ever busted all your front teeth? Hello about 20-30 dollars later for a long term solution. Trust me, I know.
I don't hate Obama any more than any other president before him in the last 50 years. This has been going on long before he took office, and will continue long after he's gone. The problems with this country didn't start in January of 2009.
I never said that there was anything wrong with turning a profit, or living comfortably. Buying multiple houses, cars, 2 businesses, 140 acres of land, etc is beyond living "comfortably", and talking about it over the phone is just plain stupid. Again, if someone wants to do that, then fine. Just don't use the medical law that sick people depend upon for cover.
You talk about these guys like they're some sort of saints for medical patients driving prices down. They are doing nothing of the sort. This story, and others like it will be used as fodder by our attorney general and other corporate interests to hijack this law. They will hold this story up as an example of how the law is being abused, paving the way for a complete corporate takeover of medical marijuana like is happening right now in Canada. You tell me how a cancer patient that is on a fixed income will benefit from no longer being allowed to grow his own medicine and instead be forced to pay $400+ an ounce. You make some good points about the tyranny of our government, and then apparently just assume that they'll leave these medical laws alone and not try to turn them in to another profit stream for big business.
