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u really want a led panel that does 630-660 reds and 440-470 blues. a few cfl for a lil white light (or add white in the panel) and possibly some ir. led use is not where it needs to be yet. i will agree with this. but its much better then it was a year ago. and it can and will be much better...

yea it does suck that people out there are ripping people off. but the real problem is mj just needs different things then other plants do. i some how knew ud bring up a panel with orange in it. they suck certain red/blue and a lil white for heat and to fill out the spectrum is all thats needed...

what panels did u use? what wavelengths were used in those panels? it all makes big differences

when i get home and get my pc up and running again ill gladly share some pics tho. and theres so many different variables that effect the way these plants grow and produce its not funny. ya just gotta keep doing it and make tweaks and see what works for you and your situation...

all i can say is i was worried at first but a good friend told me to trust him as he has gne totally led already. so i said ok and bout a 630-660/460 panel off ebay. around 160$. so i did notice a ton of difference in the way the plant was growing under it compared to the rest of the clones...

beeker, have u finished a led grow? yea scratch that i seen some of the pics u shown off. when i get my home pc up and running right later on ill post some pics. i know alot of people in the process of switching over. theres some decent companys out there that can get u the exact led's u need...

leds work! its all about the wavelengths! and yes i do have pics to prove this as well. and yes im talking bout the cheaper Chinese ufo's. its all about the red/blue wavelengths people!