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Nope, same size fans and same size AC. I run sealed rooms though, no exchange of air with the outside.

Slightly, they have more restriction to the air flow as well so I think that accounts for some of it. They definitely run a little bit hotter though.

Says the guy who is calling a rep who doesnt know the price of his own soil. Once again, good luck buddy. You need it more than anyone else I have encountered on this site ;)

I guess I photo shopped the receipt right?

People do it all the time at it works good. I personally just like to top

Check out my journal, I got a 8k DE going in there. I saw that there were not that many DE journals around so I figured I would do one to show people how DE are. Its in my signature :weed:. About to flip by the end of the week

Yep. As far as I know 2100 is the highest umol you can get right now

You can order 190 from winechateau.com. They will ship to any state :grin:

This is for you @rob333 haha $9.99 per bag buddy ;-) Am I lying about anything else?

Ushio 1000w DE pro plus 119.96 2,100 umol

Really that much? I haven't seen it over $12 up north

@rob333 seems to think I am lying about the cost of ocean forest in california, so how much are you guys paying for it? He claims he is talking to the rep who said it can't be lower than $19 a bag lol. I get it for $500 a pallet or $10 per bag for less than a pallet. Even if your not in...

Come to nor-cal some time if you want to learn how to grow real outdoor plants :lol:

Hahaha the rep is ripping you off then. Any one on this site can tell you that

CALL ANY SHOP IN CALIFORNIA. lol the only one you shut down is your self. Your a complete joke

Call any shop in california and ask them how much they sell it for

A pallet is 62 bags of ocean, not that much soil but ok buddy

Theres no way, ask anyone on this forum from cali. No one pays more than 12 a bag guarantee it. I pay less because I am buying pallets

Look at the plants buddy, what Im doing works. Im in the triangle dude, a lot of people use perlite outdoors up here. More is grown in this one county than your whole country.

Lol you don't know what perlite is?