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  1. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    They told me explicitly that this was not the case from the beginning. A RTB did NOT imply that you would receive a license. They have been covering their arses from the beginning.
  2. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    Growing with no roots? To maturity? I call shenanigans.
  3. K

    How To Become a LP: a MMPR thread

    The problem is that this is a plant, not a pharmaceutical. As a plant, it should be regulated under the Natural Health Product Regulations. In these regulations, there is a GRAS (generally regarded as safe) designation. By all definitions, Cannabis should be considered a GRAS NHP (pun...
  4. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    Come back after dealing with Health Canada for a while. I submitted what was essentially the same application twice (after clearing up zoning issues). The first time around they were very positive, but the second time we didnt have a chance. They change their requirements all the time, and...
  5. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    Actually, I think it costs the government money to have people on pain meds and endless appointments but it definitely makes someone money...
  6. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    No, I have not seen it. I think HC failed in a number of areas. Their whole approach was messed up in the first place. So many problems could have been minimized with a little foresight and planning, but this is HC...
  7. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    I'm here, and dont think it is possible any more. I think if you would have sent your application early enough it would have been possible. With my first submission we ran into zoning issues and had to withdraw, but at that time Health Canada was very positive and even offered to call the...
  8. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    Dont shoot the messenger.
  9. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    As far as I know, the regulations dont prevent people from using cultivars as breeding material. As far as prosecution, I wouldn't be too surprised to see LPs use DNA tests to prove it if another starts selling their protected cultivars. If there is a lot of money involved, the lawyers will...
  10. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    There are international agreements surrounding this for member countries (Holland and Canada would both be included). Companies often receive Canadian distribution rights for foreign cultivars, so we adhere to it (at least to some degree). Often, if you receive material from someone they would...
  11. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    One thing I will mention though, is that in order to protect a cultivar you must demonstrate how it is different. So, anything that is currently out there could not be protected in this manner (unless they find loopholes), just as you could not protect Macintosh apples. I assume this is a...
  12. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    That's not correct. You can protect plant cultivars, but it falls under plant breeder's rights rather than patent law. When companies patent GMOs, I believe they are patenting the gene so it falls under more traditional patent regulations. Now that the industry is legal companies will start...
  13. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    The real answer is simple: legalize...
  14. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    One anecdote dosnt mean much, and most plants produce more trichomes outside than in the greenhouse. Everyone says indoor is more standardized, but have you ever seen how uniform a corn field is? There are obviously things out of your control, but producing uniform crops is not an issue and...
  15. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    Greenhouses are a step in that direction, but are still much more expensive than outside..
  16. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    I am speaking of the legal production of opium, not the illegal fields in the middle east. It is produced in France, Japan, the UK, and Australia legally for pharmaceutical purposes. If they can do this, why couldn't we have outdoor fields. Yes, you can grow one crop per year and sell it year...
  17. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    As I've said before, if they wanted affordable cannabis, they would have permitted outdoor production. You can produce it for just pennies a glass outside, so even with profit margins, patients could buy it for less than a dollar a gram. It would also provide a new crop to struggling farmers...
  18. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    But how many people enroll in the MMPR, order once, then refill their container from the BM? This is what I have seen people doing because it it cheaper and better... If LPs start producing high quality products at competitive prices this may change, but it is an uphill battle when your...
  19. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    No, I'm down for the count. Luckily we saw the writing on the walls before we invested much money in the process. Once we got the zoning problems sorted we re-applied, but they had changed the system so much that our location and application that made it to the next phase originally was no...
  20. K

    MMPR Grow op: Small Scale

    I first applied in August 2013, but from the very beginning all of the QA requirements were based on "schedule B" documents, which is just a group of pharmacopoeias (including the UN Pharmacopoeia). Ironically, the American Herbal Pharmacopoeia is the only one that has a monograph specific to...
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