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  1. Dr. Bob

    Bonafide Dr/Pt Relationship. You were told.

    Seems you are confused. I certify people every day. Today I was in traverse city. You are also confusing a ‘business model’ with the legitimate practice of medicine and the standard of care.
  2. Dr. Bob

    Bonafide Dr/Pt Relationship. You were told.

    Nope, these docs are being punished now. There was a choice made to take the easy, no record, Skype way when legitimate alternatives were available. You don't get a pass for poor choices when you were informed. We've been preaching what to look for over the years, folks argued, debated...
  3. Dr. Bob

    Bonafide Dr/Pt Relationship. You were told.

    https://www.sbam.org/Resources/tabid/97/ArtMID/2980/ArticleID/2764/Michigans-medical-marijuana-certification-loophole.aspx The point being made is they are finally starting to crack down on the doctors that have put their patients at risk for years. No Record Clinics, Skype Clinics. As this...
  4. Dr. Bob

    Cards Being Revoked by State of Michigan

    Medicine is medicine. There is a right way to do it, and a wrong way, which is completely unrelated to regulations. The fact that there are licensure fees to participate in the program may offend libertarian feelings, but that is the cost of living in a society. I don't blame the patients, I...
  5. Dr. Bob

    Cards Being Revoked by State of Michigan

    It is a shame you don’t know I was a strong advocate for telemedicine for the very reasons you cite. Would you like to see the testimony before the house judiciary? Yes there are ways to do it properly with shut ins. It is called a house call and I’ve done many. This isn’t an economic issue...
  6. Dr. Bob

    Cards Being Revoked by State of Michigan

    Next time you presume to tell a professional what they need to do by law, know what the law says. We don’t just sign off on your card because you pay us. We have to follow the ‘business model’ that is medicine. A physician shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner...
  7. Dr. Bob

    Saliva Testing.. Ways to Pass?

    They get a check list to mark off and a certification, which makes them an 'expert' in the eyes of the court. It is just another tool they can use to arrest people. Don't play the game is the advice of the attorneys. I don't use marijuana, there is NO WAY I would allow them to test me for...
  8. Dr. Bob

    Cards Being Revoked by State of Michigan

    Do I have no shame because I've worked for 7 years to help people use a schedule 1 controlled substance to help make their lives better? No. Not one bit. I am sorry you have such a superficial understanding of the bonafide dr/pt relationship rules and how they helped patients stay out of...
  9. Dr. Bob

    Saliva Testing.. Ways to Pass?

    I've seen a number of respected cannabis attorneys in Michigan say you should refuse the saliva test and take the $200 fine due to the problems caused by false positives- simply don't take the chance. Don't give them a reason to pull you over in the first place. Dr. Bob
  10. Dr. Bob

    Cards Being Revoked by State of Michigan

    I happened to see one of the comments and I'll address it. We did go to 2 year cards (rather than having to go every year), I am a firm supporter of decriminalization/legalization and have been for years. What we want isn't the point, what we have is. There are four elements to the process of...
  11. Dr. Bob

    Cards Being Revoked by State of Michigan

    I have to tell you I tried years ago. When the first cases came to the courts, I contacted LARA for guidance to make sure I was doing it right. They made it clear they don't provide any information, they just process the cards and let the courts decide if it was good enough. IF they did put...
  12. Dr. Bob

    Cards Being Revoked by State of Michigan

    That is what we are hearing too, just wanted to confirm.
  13. Dr. Bob

    Cards Being Revoked by State of Michigan

    No we have been contacted by two different patients and the issues is that the state is revoking the cards as fraudulent specifically because they were not seen by a doctor in person. Telephone and Skype, but we are getting details. I put this up to see if anyone else was hearing it, especially...
  14. Dr. Bob

    Cards Being Revoked by State of Michigan

    No it has not been legal since 2013. State has been auditing and we are getting calls from patients that went to those clinics saying the state revoked their cards. The reason given was they didn’t see a doctor in person.
  15. Dr. Bob

    Cards Being Revoked by State of Michigan

    We are getting reports of patients getting letters from the State of Michigan informing them that since they got their certifications over Skype without meeting with a doctor face to face, their cards are fraudulent and are being revoked. Are people here seeing that or were they isolated cases...
  16. Dr. Bob

    General Election- Dr. Bob

    Been seeing folks for over a year, but don't do pain management anymore, too dangerous.
  17. Dr. Bob

    General Election- Dr. Bob

    Well I didn't burn my signs and 2018 isn't far off. I got 13,000 votes on my first run, with no help or funding. Now they know I am around and next time I can build on that and hopefully double the votes. Dr. Bob
  18. Dr. Bob

    MMMA Fail ?

    I suggested Chad was giving advice designed to create court cases rather than keep people safe, so I've been banned over there for years. They seem to have lost most of the true idiots posting schemes to circumvent the law and justify unintended behavior, but still haven't been back. Dr. Bob
  19. Dr. Bob

    One Doctor Certifies 11,800 in a year-- Let's lose our Freaking Minds...

    As long as any doctor is seeing patients face to face, reviewing records, creating a chart and offering follow up (in other words doing it just like any medical visit), I don't have a problem with them taking up the slack left by primary care doctors that refuse to certify their own patients...
  20. Dr. Bob

    Michigan appeals court throws out transporting pot law

    Excellent news and one less way LEO can harass legal patients minding their own business. Sorry Otsego and Crawford Co...
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