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did you use the coupon? roll20 i think its like 15 or 20% off your order

seedsherenow....also freedomofseeds or alibongo ive order from the 3 i mentioned above and ive also ordered from thedankteam, attitude, seedsman, neptune, and midweeksong. imo seedsherenow and neptuneseedbank had the fastest shipping times...thedankteam is kinda slow.... midweeksong lets you...

i actually just harvested 5th element. the pheno i got smells like stale cherry sweets. super oily and frosty and crazy sticky on the trim. the high reminds me of grand daddy purp str8 quality. i was able to get two clones during flower off her and they are now vegging...im keeping 5th element...

passive aggression...you guys are great man lol

i dont have to prove anything to any of you but this is a place to discuss this type stuff so i volunteered info just like everyone else. again nobody discredited anyone here but some of you are discrediting mars and the proven results. when you buy stuff you dont just factor in whats...

the operative word is "exclusively"...your right but so am i

out of stock...also any links of people who have grown with them before?

what your doing isnt pushback. we arent having a conversation your trying your best to shit on anyone who doesnt grow how you think they should. we all started growing for the same reasons, better smoke, medicinal, make some money or all of the above. i dont know any seasoned vets that approach...

this is truly crazy to me...its like yall are obsessed with being exclusively right...i never bashed anyones preference when to comes to growing. i dont have issues with density or potency or yield. im sure you guys have all clicked my profile looking for a journal or pics or whatever but i dont...

man i believe you..i saw your pics...i see the difference...that doesnt mean i have to grow how you grow...im not a diy kinda guy so i wont be building any lights and the price of the best leds isnt a appealing to me because i dont think the yeild will improve enough from what im already...

dude i believe you man...i agree with you...but im good for now

listen i trust what you guys are saying...i know the lights i use arent the best and i believe that some of you had poor customer service from sara and the rest of the mars reps...all im saying is the lights do produce for me and many others and are priced better than most lights on the market...

you mean the light you built is better than the one size fits all commercial manufactured product...i for one am shocked...SHOCKED

check ya tone bro...this is a thread a guy made to see what lights he should get for his 3x3 tent for personal smoke...if anything guys like you bring the wrong value for this thread. you think youre better than anyone who isnt growing how you do. results dont lie...you offer a way to get good...

you guys have some serious inferiority issues

hilarious...i get decent results man...i run a bunch of 3x3 tents with 2 300w old model mars panels in each and get no less than half a pound per harvest....depends on the strain but still....its not the best results but its good...when you consider 2 panels are $130 shipped the production for...

its as if you guys truly believe what you like and prefer is exclusively right and its the only way to get the job done thats what i find offensive. theres ego and classism in all industries i suppose...happy growing to all of you in 2016

hilarious....narcissistic sophomoric consumerism at its finest...results dont lie...if growing with lights that you dont like means i leave a few grams on the table so what...its not worth it...i get good enough results as is....none of you are wrong for how you choose to grow and neither am...

defensive? is that what this is? i gave this thread props for being informative and simply stated how wrong anyone is who claims you cant grow with mars lights but the marijuana grower ego strikes for an old fashion pissing contest per usual lol...you got the game fucked up man...folks like you...

i officially switched to leds from cfls this time last year...ive had no issues with any of my panels...but heres the kicker guys im not even using the mars2 panels lol i use two 300w old models in each of my tents...thats $130 shipped for 2 of those panels or $70 shipped for 1...if any of em...