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thanks for the help guys,its started forming up so no need to chop

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the hardest part for me is patience,when they just pop up all i want is for them to grow big and fast. just make sure you got a fan on them to help develope strong stems,keep them close to the lights to avoid exssesive stretching and they will be big before you know it if you do want them...

what exactly do you think is wrong with them?

it sounds like over watering to me.that will make the leaves go droppy like you describe.give it a day or 2 without water and see if it improves,wont kill them.good advice from masonite.with that many plants with only that lighting i think you will have issues when they start flowering, some...

hey man,judging by you pics i agree your not ready to harvest, it looks like another 2 or 3 weeks to me,you need more of those white hairs to go red...good way to tell is check the trichromes with a good camera,half milky and half amber i also had a problem like you and used those bug strips,did...