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life is a puzzling conundrum i look at it with my psychic eye i dont think you could call it doll-drum because most of the time ive bin high looking back on my past from a precipice seeing love, hate ,despair and demise ive always bin in there to say my piece and wrought chaos where there...

no when i have more cash i may try the 600w led but want to see some proven results in flower first

smoked loads but most intense high was eating 1/2 of morrocan years ago rather than get nicked

hi i bought from ebay but bought from usa then found out it was shipped from china neway, mine cost £156 delivered and works great in veg

the difference is the ebay cheap panels are 20w total hence price , lights like the ufo ( i have the 180w model for veg) are minimum 1w diodes ( mine are 2) these work well in the veg state but unfortunately i use hps to flower so cant judge if you can flower with these things, maybe the 600w...

you may as well throw your money away with that panel when buying an led you need minimum 1w diodes

didnt have much cash so went for some widow warrior seeds and got me freebies

wow looking good i posted the updated pics in my album . sorry to hear bout your stretching my ssh is now 6ft outta the pot had to bend her over oooerrrrrr lol

ok apologies different sense of humour but apologies all the same:-|

apologies sick sense of humour i guess:lol:

so fucking funny:-D

ive found with my 180w ufo that 36" away throughout vegative works best for me everytime i try to place it closer they tend to lightstress.

hi all i was a heavy smoker for 15 years and didnt really remember dreaming at all i gave up for 5 years and for the first 3 months had the most mental psychotic dreams about all kinds of wierd shit i now smoke again lol

i found the same thing with my 180w ufo

i noted your 5 points but maybe the way you answered was how can i put it ........... i dunno aloof. in case you didnt know these places are where people come for advice not a browbeating maybe a bit of tact with your answers is needed and people respond better ignore if ya will its your choice...

easy answer snow crash, dont answer, i wouldnt wanna waste your obviously valuable time with my purile questions easy solution dont you think?

have no probs with temps at the moment as running some pretty serious extraction with both inlet and outlet fans as well as circulation fans but thanks for the heads up. and my 3 dogs are also banned from this room to try and help with the cleanliness. thanks for your advice and any further...

thanks tompar you have realised my worst fears with your answer as my veg room cant take the bigger model shame cos 2 424,s would have gone ideal in my flower room and i was planning to rig up some sort of adjustable base to do my 6 plant rotation in the same flower area i might now have to go...

wow really the closest i can put mine to young plants is 36" they tend to die at lower heights

hi im not out to be spoon fed just was asking advice sorry if that caused offence i have been researching for over 3 weeks now . i will definetly not skimp and i have just bought a ph meter and wand. it was more to lead into building my own custom system than purchase a pre made 1 as i do have...