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I agree PAR minus Input is important. But, does it produce $600 more is what I am getting at. Timber offers 3 years warranty on their products. So you will get 3 years and whatever comes after the warranty expires. Timber is a VERY VERY sturdy fixture. Again, I am not trashing SpyderX. I am more...

The OP's fixture for 600w to cover the same 4x4 space is about $900. You think the SpyderX is giving $600 more in performance for the same space? I have to say no. Can they be better, of course. But again, how much better do you get for $600 extra? Cost vs production is heavily in Timbers favor...

From what I see from the OP, TimberGrow is proven. I am sorry some of you also have good experience with other brands, but that doesn't negate the gains you also get from Timber. They are in fact a very reputable company with a great customer service that comes with their warranty.

So I just went thru the last 5 pages or so. I really have to say... Some of you are COMPLETELY out of your mind and need to reassess your life and goals. The words that come to mind about some of you are unhinged, delusional and triggered. It is very clear some of you have no idea what you're...