how long ish did the ones that ayto flowered take to start, or how many nobes did you get before they started? im stuck to a height restriction so really i need them to starting flowering at about 12" high! i found they were bushy too, really healthy looking things they were! i got some of those short ryder is it!? fems from nirvana, the one that tuck over from early special and top 44, not having much luck with em but then were i grow is so fucking hot and stealth so not much i can do to help the lil ladies! good to hear from you mate, keep toking!