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UncleBuck

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I've made that point before as well. The McDouble would, well... double in price.
reality shits on your empty headed, right wing rhetoric.

min wage has gone up and up but the dollar buys more big mac than before.

why do you hate reality and why does reality hate you?
 

UncleBuck

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Listen, Buck, I have no problem helping people who are legitimately in need. I do, however, have a big problem with handing out $1 Million worth of welfare over the last 10 years to people like Dzhokhar and Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
oh, so you only hate foreigners and black people. got it.
 

BrewsNBuds

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all those folks sucking the welfare tit.
Lewiston, Maine. Is that rural enough for you?

Welfare fraud trial of Lewiston market owners gets underway

They were taking in $120,000 a year at their convenience store, buying up apartment buildings with cash, and each time they bought a building they signed and swore they had no assets. They had a damn good real estate and retail business going on, and they still had to steal all this money from the taxpayers?!
 

NoDrama

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reality shits on your empty headed, right wing rhetoric.

min wage has gone up and up but the dollar buys more big mac than before.

why do you hate reality and why does reality hate you?
What are the prices of the items on the dollar menu?
 

BrewsNBuds

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It's pretty sad you don't even know who they are. I will continue to defend your right to consume as little factual information as possible, Buck.
 

see4

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Lewiston, Maine. Is that rural enough for you?

Welfare fraud trial of Lewiston market owners gets underway

They were taking in $120,000 a year at their convenience store, buying up apartment buildings with cash, and each time they bought a building they signed and swore they had no assets. They had a damn good real estate and retail business going on, and they still had to steal all this money from the taxpayers?!
Based on this logic, alcohol, knives and guns should all be completely outlawed.
 

UncleBuck

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Based on this logic, alcohol, knives and guns should all be completely outlawed.
you've got it all wrong.

some bad folks will still get guns, therefore it makes no sense to ban guns or have background checks or the like.

by the same logic, some people will still abuse assistance programs, thus we must get rid of all laws making it a crime to defraud assistance programs.

this iteration of NRA logic works so well and in all situations.


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see4

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you've got it all wrong.

some bad folks will still get guns, therefore it makes no sense to ban guns or have background checks or the like.

by the same logic, some people will still abuse assistance programs, thus we must get rid of all laws making it a crime to defraud assistance programs.

this iteration of NRA logic works so well and in all situations.


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'Murica! Pew Pew!
 

Wavels

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A good ole double Cheeseburger.

Was a $1, now its $1.49
Retailers such as Subway stand to benefit, if their lower price point competition is forced to raise prices.

Unintended consequences always target the lip area.
 

NoDrama

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Retailers such as Subway stand to benefit, if their lower price point competition is forced to raise prices.

Unintended consequences always target the lip area.
Agreed, people are addicted to fast food.

Subway used to have $5 foot longs, but now the only $5 foot long you can get is bread with lettuce on it, pretty much.

A family size bag of Lays potato chips cost $3.49, over the last four years the size went from 16 oz, to 15 oz, to 14 oz and right now they weigh 13.5 ounces. The price hasn't changed though.


http://www.mouseprint.org/2013/04/08/when-the-chips-are-downsized/
 

Wavels

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Agreed, people are addicted to fast food.

Subway used to have $5 foot longs, but now the only $5 foot long you can get is bread with lettuce on it, pretty much.

A family size bag of Lays potato chips cost $3.49, over the last four years the size went from 16 oz, to 15 oz, to 14 oz and right now they weigh 13.5 ounces. The price hasn't changed though.


http://www.mouseprint.org/2013/04/08/when-the-chips-are-downsized/
Yea, too true.
remember when you could go to the supermarket and buy a pound of coffee????(16 oz)

Now the bricks or containers are all 10 to 11.5 ozs.
And where I live 4 packs of cheap beer have replaced 6 packs.
 

Hazydat620

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I expect to be able to afford these things, but in most cases u can't, along with the millions of other working poor.
In America tonight, tens of millions of men and women will struggle to get to sleep because they are stressed out about not making enough money even though they are working as hard as they possibly can. They are called "the working poor", and their numbers are absolutely exploding. As a recent Gallup poll showed, Americans are more concerned about the economy than they are about anything else. But why are Americans so stressed out about our economic situation if things are supposedly getting better? Well, the truth is that unemployment is not actually going down, and the real unemployment numbers are actually much worse than what is officially being reported by the government. But unemployment is only part of the story. Most American workers are still able to find jobs, but an increasing proportion of them are not able to make ends meet at the end of the month. Our economy continues to bleed good paying middle class jobs, and to a large degree those jobs are being replaced by low income jobs. Approximately one-fourth of all American workers make 10 dollars an hour or less at this point, and we see them all around us every day. They flip our burgers, they cut our hair and they take our money at the supermarket. In many homes, both parents are working multiple jobs, and yet when a child gets sick or a car breaks down they find that they don't have enough money to pay the bill. Many of these families have gone into tremendous amounts of debt in order to try to stay afloat, but once you get caught in a cycle of debt it can be incredibly difficult to break out of that. So what is the solution? Well, the easy answer would be that we need the U.S. economy to start producing more good paying jobs, but that is easier said than done. Our big corporations continue to ship huge numbers of good paying manufacturing jobs out of the country, and millions of Americans have been forced to scramble to find whatever work is available. Today, there are so many very talented American workers that are trapped in low wage work. According to the Working Poor Families Project, "about one-fourth of adults in low-income working families were employed in just eight occupations, as cashiers, cooks, health aids, janitors, maids, retail salespersons, waiters and waitresses, or drivers." A lot of those people could do so much more for society, but they don't have the opportunity.
Sadly, the percentage of low paying jobs in our economy continues to increase with each passing year, so this is a problem that is only going to get worse. So don't look down on the working poor. The good paying job that you have right now could disappear at any time and you could end up joining their ranks very soon.
The following are 35 statistics about the working poor in America that will blow your mind...
#1 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, more than 146 million Americans are either "poor" or "low income".
#2 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, 57 percent of all American children live in a home that is either "poor" or "low income".
#3 Back in 2007, about 28 percent of all working families were considered to be among "the working poor". Today, that number is up to 32 percent even though our politicians tell us that the economy is supposedly recovering.
#4 Back in 2007, 21 million U.S. children lived in "working poor" homes. Today, that number is up to 23.5 million.
#5 In Arkansas, Mississippi and New Mexico, more than 40 percent all of working families are considered to be "low income".
#6 Families that have a head of household under the age of 30 have a poverty rate of 37 percent.
#7 Half of all American workers earn $505 or less per week.
#8 At this point, one out of every four American workers has a job that pays $10 an hour or less.
#9 Today, the United States actually has a higher percentage of workers doing low wage work than any other major industrialized nation does.
#10 Median household income in the United States has fallen for four consecutive years.
#11 Median household income for families with children dropped by a whopping $6,300 between 2001 and 2011.
#12 The U.S. economy continues to trade good paying jobs for low paying jobs. 60 percent of the jobs lost during the last recession were mid-wage jobs, but 58 percent of the jobs created since then have been low wage jobs.
#13 Back in 1980, less than 30% of all jobs in the United States were low income jobs. Today, more than 40% of all jobs in the United States are low income jobs.
#14 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the middle class is taking home a smaller share of the overall income pie than has ever been recorded before.
#15 There are now 20.2 million Americans that spend more than half of their incomes on housing. That represents a 46 percent increase from 2001.
#16 Low income families spend about 8.6 percent of their incomes on gasoline. Other families spend about 2.1 percent.
#17 In 1999, 64.1 percent of all Americans were covered by employment-based health insurance. Today, only 55.1 percent are covered by employment-based health insurance.
#18 According to one survey, 77 percent of all Americans are now living paycheck to paycheck at least part of the time.
#19 Millions of working poor families in America end up taking on debt in a desperate attempt to stay afloat, but before too long they find themselves in a debt trap that they can never escape. According to a recent article in the New York Times, the average debt burden for U.S. households that earn $20,000 a year or less "more than doubled to $26,000 between 2001 and 2010".
#20 In 1989, the debt to income ratio of the average American family was about 58 percent. Today it is up to 154 percent.
#21 According to the Economic Policy Institute, the wealthiest one percent of all Americans households on average have 288 times the amount of wealth that the average middle class American family does.
#22 In the United States today, the wealthiest one percent of all Americans have a greater net worth than the bottom 90 percent combined.
#23 According to Forbes, the 400 wealthiest Americans have more wealth than the bottom 150 million Americans combined.
#24 The six heirs of Wal-Mart founder Sam Walton have a net worth that is roughly equal to the bottom 30 percent of all Americans combined.
#25 Sadly, the bottom 60 percent of all Americans own just 2.3 percent of all the financial wealth in the United States.
#26 The average CEO now makes approximately 350 times as much as the average American worker makes.
#27 Corporate profits as a percentage of GDP are at an all-time high. Meanwhile, wages as a percentage of GDP are near an all-time low.
#28 Today, 40 percent of all Americans have $500 or less in savings.
#29 The number of families in the United States living on 2 dollars a day or less more than doubled between 1996 and 2011.
#30 The number of Americans on food stamps has grown from 17 million in the year 2000 to more than 47 million today.
#31 Back in the 1970s, about one out of every 50 Americans was on food stamps. Today, about one out of every 6.5 Americans is on food stamps.
#32 More than one out of every four children in the United States is enrolled in the food stamp program.
#33 Incredibly, a higher percentage of children is living in poverty in America today than was the case back in 1975.
#34 If you can believe it, the federal government hands out money to 128 million Americans every single month.
#35 Federal spending on welfare has reached nearly a trillion dollars a year, and it is being projected that it will increase by another 80 percent over the next decade.
 

schuylaar

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The thread was a trap designed to direct an argument in one direction. It was so badly worded though that it failed.

If you I 40 hours a week do you deserve housing?? I guess I am supposed to say yes right? What level of housing do I deserve for 40 hours a week? Do I get a 6x9 cell or do I get to live in a 20 million dollar house? What do I deserve?

If I work 40 hours a week do I deserve food? I guess I am supposed to say yes right? What level of food do I deserve? Do I get the basics or am I entitled to filet mignon served by a 5 star chef for every meal? What do I deserve?

If I work 40 hours a week do I deserve healthcare? I guess I am supposed to say yes right? What level of healthcare do I deserve? Well, according to Obama, unlike everything else in life, I am entitled to unlimited healthcare as often as I need it regardless of what it costs... And not only do I get free healthcare, I get more of it if I DONT work 40 hours a week, in fact, I maximize my benefits if I dont work at all...

Nobody has a right to healthcare.
really? so if you have full-time employment and you become ill..you don't think you should be able to afford a doctors visit out of your paycheck?..this is not about health insurance.

this was an easy question guys don't over-think it..full-time employment = paycheck

paycheck = shelter, clothing, food and the ability to see the doctor when you are ill ie; a doctor's visit $75 (average "cash" price non-specialist)

no other variable needs to be included ie; playing poker machines, drinking/drugging your paycheck away..this does NOT include..personal items, transportation, entertainment..only the 4 items.

there are many dynamics going on here which we can address however, i don't want to lose scope on original post..

does the above clarification change anyone's opinion before i go further?..if so, please post..
 

see4

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really? so if you have full-time employment and you become ill..you don't think you should be able to afford a doctors visit out of your paycheck?..this is not about health insurance.

this was an easy question guys don't over-think it..full-time employment = paycheck

paycheck = shelter, clothing, food and the ability to see the doctor when you are ill ie; a doctor's visit $75 (average "cash" price non-specialist)

no other variable needs to be included ie; playing poker machines, drinking/drugging your paycheck away..this does NOT include..personal items, transportation, entertainment..only the 4 items.

there are many dynamics going on here which we can address however, i don't want to lose scope on original post..

does the above clarification change anyone's opinion before i go further?..if so, please post..
They will NOT give you a straight answer. Doing so will admit defeat.
 
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