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jigfresh

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I'm almost understanding what you are saying... could you try again. :)

EDIT: Good memory, that was a long time ago now.
 

colocowboy

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Ok, I edited in the rough position of where in the system they would be positioned. Essentially putting a half a piece of pipe inside your nft tube between the elbows, this would allow the water to clog back to it's nearest elbow for a flow channel of nutrient solution, but would provide an overflow that to the next elbow in succession thus preventing overflow at the plant sites. The key is to make sure the intake of each section is before the first plant site of that section and terminates after the last plant site of that section to not be obstructed by the main root mass of those respective plant sites. If you use the thin walled white pvc for sprinklers you will have flexibility and can cut with shears or tin snips. I would probably use 1 inch, then use silicone for adhesive and just clamp them in place while they dry. Shouldn't have any problem sliding in the half pipe into an end plant site of each section and clamp using the plant site opening.
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jigfresh

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Genius. I get it. Will see about working that out. Damn. I'm highly impressed. Like a lot. It takes a lot to impress me. I'm usually a critical bastard who things idea are stupid. lol

Hell yeah. So stoked about this idea.
 

Smoothkicksandsmoke

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That's a pretty slick idea man. The only concern I would have is whether the water pumping through the pipe is more than the half PVC pipe could channel. If the flow rate isn't a concern than this idea is DANK!!!!
 

jigfresh

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I'm confused bongsmilie
So basically i'd cut a small pvc pipe in half the long way... so have a long half pipe.

Glue that inside the black pipe so there is a channel inside, bypassing the root mass.

Height adjusted to where I put the pvc, so the water will still run along the bottom, just overflow control.

And smooth, I'm not worried about it being too much flow as all the water is delivered through a 1/2" tube, so 1/2 of a 1" pvc would be more than enough to handle the overflow. I even have extra conduit from my electrical workings in the back to do this. Now how to easily rip a 1" pipe.

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colocowboy

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That's what my shirt says! hahahah (gift from the wife, I'm not that vain) I was a plumber once upon a time ago.
Thanks man, I appreciate that!
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colocowboy

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I've done it with a sawzall and a small skillsaw, if you already have the pipe. That's why I recommended the thin tube as it's easy to cut with heavy scissors even. Just half it before you cut the lengths so you can clamp it to a saw horse or what ever your work surface is.
 

supchaka

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I'd cut it on a table saw if you have one, one side at a time. Providing u don't chop off a finger. Set the fence at 1/2" and the blade real short and run her through. I think trying to cut the whole piece at once is do-able too but may be more prone to breaking the pipe.
 

SomeGuy

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Table saw would work maybe. Or cut it in smaller sections and use a 4" angle grinder with a metal cut-off wheel to cut them in half. Looks like a great idea to avoid flooding the closet. :-)
 

jigfresh

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I think I'll use drip line I have laying around. It's like 1/2" or 3/4" i think. Easy enough to cut with my metal scissor thingys.

EDIT: sometimes it pays to be white trash and have spare shit laying all around your property. :)
 

Javadog

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Ok, I edited in the rough position of where in the system they would be positioned. Essentially putting a half a piece of pipe inside your nft tube between the elbows, this would allow the water to clog back to it's nearest elbow for a flow channel of nutrient solution, but would provide an overflow that to the next elbow in succession thus preventing overflow at the plant sites. The key is to make sure the intake of each section is before the first plant site of that section and terminates after the last plant site of that section to not be obstructed by the main root mass of those respective plant sites. If you use the thin walled white pvc for sprinklers you will have flexibility and can cut with shears or tin snips. I would probably use 1 inch, then use silicone for adhesive and just clamp them in place while they dry. Shouldn't have any problem sliding in the half pipe into an end plant site of each section and clamp using the plant site opening.
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OMG....I got that.

Cool stuff. Gluing it down might be necessary to keep it clear.

Thanks for sharing.

JD
 

colocowboy

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Well you want to keep the roots from growing in to it also else it will be self defeating. You also want to make sure it is at grade with the nft channel to assure good flow. That would concern me if you use poly tubing in that it may be hard to make sure it's at a straight grade. I would suggest your cool dual cut but the curf on that might remove a lot of the pipe. If you have plenty of pipe though you could just adjust accordingly and waste a side, the whole idea with using a half channel is to give you two surfaces to glue down as a circle only has a narrow singular point to stick to. You could probably even just make a flat edge to spread out the surface area. As long as it's not too cold pvc wont chip or shatter. A band saw would be perfect but lets stick to what your working with. ;)

Honestly you could probably just shoot a deck screw through your pipes and just dab a little silicone around the screw head on the outside. Just make sure the pipe isn't cold.
 

jigfresh

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So while looking for equipment I am completely lost as to where my water pump is. I think I remember it stopped working? Does anyone else remember me saying that? haha I guess I need a new water pump.

Thanks for the extra tips cowboy. I've been having fun thinking about the best way to do this. Or at least how I'm going to do it be it the best or not. :)

Band saws scare me. I like hand tools, if for some reason you faint while using them, the trigger will release and at worst you drop it on yourself. Pass out using a band saw and nasty things could happen.
 

whodatnation

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Did you check under the porch? Brush some pine needles aside? Hehe

lol jig that's a crazy fear of bandsaws! Iv used some over 10f tall, big fuckers.
 

colocowboy

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I've seen some hand tools kick some major ass on the unsuspecting. I was auguring a hole for a 2" vent pipe then the damn thing hit a knot and kicked back, torque bar knocked me out cold on a ladder, nice little chin scar trophy. lol
Same drill and bit busted a 2 x 4 and caught my helpers shirt sleeve. Two layers of long sleeve ripped off his arm at the shoulder and was wrapping him around a rafter because his hand got mashed to the trigger when it sucked up his sleeve. I unplugged him, thank god it missed his artery but took 35 stitches to put him back together. Just got to respect the power these things really have.
 

whodatnation

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Your totally right about respecting tools. They dont know the difference between one of your limbs and a 2x4 or whatever you working with. Iv had a few close calls from just not paying 100% attention, getting comfortable and shit, getting comfy with power tools can get very uncomfortable very quickly. Im def lucky to still have all my fingers/hands/arms/legs/head/feet the whole nine, very lucky.
 

jigfresh

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Yikes! Only close call I've had is with electricity. Got all comfortable and everything, next thing I know I'm 10 feet away from where I was standing, and the screwdriver that was in my hand is now across the yard. If I would have made good contact with the metal I touched I don't think I'd be typing this today. We're talking 1mm difference. Angels have always surrounded me.

I have tweaked my wrist a few times when the drill hits something it doesn't like. Luckily that's about it.
 
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