Now Democrats Call To Delay Obamacare.

beenthere

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I assume you will have more to say after this comment, but for now I am going to bed. When I get up and read your blither, I will try my best to respond with proper rhetoric. Goodnight man. And seriously, don't take what I have to say to heart. We are all in this together. But because your side is driving this country into the ground I have been forced to buy a shit ton of guns and grow copious amounts of pot. Good times.
With all due respect, I knew from the beginning you did not make over $250 like you claimed, I see this kind of BS all the time.
The tell tale sign is, in all my experience in life, I've yet to meet a person who votes against their own interests, especially when it comes to capital interests.

Goodnight.
 

beenthere

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When I wake up, I will expect to see it. Thanks! And good night!
“[N]o matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.” — President Barack Obama
 

see4

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With all due respect, I knew from the beginning you did not make over $250 like you claimed, I see this kind of BS all the time.
The tell tale sign is, in all my experience in life, I've yet to meet a person who votes against their own interests, especially when it comes to capital interests.

Goodnight.
I have nothing to prove to you fella. Im glad you don't think I make this kind of money. Im sure it will help you sleep better at night. So for that, I won't support this with pictures of my tax returns. But anyway... watch this video. Someone else on RIU posted it, Mojo. Very good video, you should watch. He's another rich fella who isn't fucking selfish.

[video=youtube;bBx2Y5HhplI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBx2Y5HhplI[/video]
 

see4

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“[N]o matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period. If you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. Period. No one will take it away. No matter what.” — President Barack Obama
And how hasn't this held true?
 

beenthere

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And how hasn't this held true?
Health plans reportedly are cancelling hundreds of thousands of policies for people who buy their own coverage, saying they fall short of what the Affordable Care Act requires.

Kaiser Health News is reporting that most plans are ending policies sold after Obamacare passed in March 2010, but at least a few are cancelling policies sold to people with pre-existing medical conditions.

Kaiser Health News reported insurers in several states said they'd sent notices -- including Florida Blue, which ended about 300,000 policies, about 80 percent of its individual policies in the state.

Obamacare Alert: Massive Rule Changes to Affect Your Medicare

Kaiser Permanente in California has sent notices to 160,000 people – about half of its individual business in the state.

Insurer Highmark in Pittsburgh is dropping about 20 percent of its individual market customers, while Independence Blue Cross, the major insurer in Philadelphia, is dropping about 45 percent, Kaiser Health News reported.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/US/thousands-lose-health-coverage/2013/10/23/id/532769#ixzz2ihoQuiNK
Urgent: Should Obamacare Be Repealed? Vote Here Now!


I guess you don't hear this kind of stuff on MSNBC
 

see4

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I've yet to meet a person who votes against their own interests, especially when it comes to capital interests.
Bill Gates wants higher taxes.
Mark Zuckerberg wants higher taxes.
Warren Buffet wants higher taxes.

These are some of the richest people on the planet.

Others?

Icahn, Bloomberg, Mark Cuban

Shall I go on?
 

beenthere

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[h=1]Thousands Of Consumers Get Insurance Cancellation Notices Due To Health Law Changes[/h]
Topics: Insurance, Marketplace, Health Reform
By Anna Gorman and Julie Appleby
KHN Staff Writers
Oct 21, 2013
Health plans are sending hundreds of thousands of cancellation letters to people who buy their own coverage, frustrating some consumers who want to keep what they have and forcing others to buy more costly policies.

The main reason insurers offer is that the policies fall short of what the Affordable Care Act requires starting Jan. 1. Most are ending policies sold after the law passed in March 2010. At least a few are cancelling plans sold to people with pre-existing medical conditions.


This is straight from Kaiser Health News.
 

see4

Well-Known Member
Health plans reportedly are cancelling hundreds of thousands of policies for people who buy their own coverage, saying they fall short of what the Affordable Care Act requires.

Kaiser Health News is reporting that most plans are ending policies sold after Obamacare passed in March 2010, but at least a few are cancelling policies sold to people with pre-existing medical conditions.

Kaiser Health News reported insurers in several states said they'd sent notices -- including Florida Blue, which ended about 300,000 policies, about 80 percent of its individual policies in the state.

Obamacare Alert: Massive Rule Changes to Affect Your Medicare

Kaiser Permanente in California has sent notices to 160,000 people – about half of its individual business in the state.

Insurer Highmark in Pittsburgh is dropping about 20 percent of its individual market customers, while Independence Blue Cross, the major insurer in Philadelphia, is dropping about 45 percent, Kaiser Health News reported.

Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/US/thousands-lose-health-coverage/2013/10/23/id/532769#ixzz2ihoQuiNK
Urgent: Should Obamacare Be Repealed? Vote Here Now!


I guess you don't hear this kind of stuff on MSNBC

A credible source citing Affordable Healthcare Act as Obamacare? Are you serious?

Shit, Im dealing with another jtprin....

Ok, I give up. Youre a moron. Go to bed. I can't take this anymore. I might as well be banging my head against a wall.
 

beenthere

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Bill Gates wants higher taxes.
Mark Zuckerberg wants higher taxes.
Warren Buffet wants higher taxes.

These are some of the richest people on the planet.

Others?

Icahn, Bloomberg, Mark Cuban

Shall I go on?
It's because most if not all of them pay a lower effective tax rate that you or I, cmon, you're smarter than that!
 

ginwilly

Well-Known Member
Bill Gates wants higher taxes.
Mark Zuckerberg wants higher taxes.
Warren Buffet wants higher taxes.

These are some of the richest people on the planet.

Others?

Icahn, Bloomberg, Mark Cuban

Shall I go on?
lol Buffet has been fighting the IRS for years now over billions of dollars. Seems he could just pay up?
You are allowed to send in more than what is required yet none of these men have.
Please go on.
 

see4

Well-Known Member
Health plans are sending hundreds of thousands of cancellation letters to people who buy their own coverage, frustrating some consumers who want to keep what they have and forcing others to buy more costly policies.

The main reason insurers offer is that the policies fall short of what the Affordable Care Act requires starting Jan. 1. Most are ending policies sold after the law passed in March 2010. At least a few are cancelling plans sold to people with pre-existing medical conditions.


This is straight from Kaiser Health News.
You blame this on Obamacare rather than greedy insurance companies? Really? Man, you bought that bullshit hook line and sinker.

I have a bridge to sell you.
 

see4

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It's because most if not all of them pay a lower effective tax rate that you or I, cmon, you're smarter than that!
Neither one of us know the true answer to that. However, one of those individuals in that list paid more than I did.

Lets not debate something we don't know all the facts on.
 

Ringsixty

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Bill Gates wants higher taxes.
Mark Zuckerberg wants higher taxes.
Warren Buffet wants higher taxes.

These are some of the richest people on the planet.

Others?

Icahn, Bloomberg, Mark Cuban

Shall I go on?
So, they need to just STFU and simply bust out that check book and write a big fat check to the government.
Which I really doubt they would do.
 

beenthere

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According to a letter Buffett sent to Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kansas) that the Congressman posted here, the billionaire had adjusted gross income in 2010 of $62,855,038, taxable income of $39,814,784, and a federal income tax bill of $6,923,494. That makes his effective tax rate, as a percentage of AGI, just 11.06%, compared to an average effective rate in 2008 (the most recent year available) of 18.1% of AGI for the 400 taxpayers with the largest incomes, according to figures reported by the Internal Revenue Service. - See more at: http://huelskamp.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&id=3693#sthash.EqVA2cVt.dpuf


Shall I go on!
According to a letter Buffett sent to Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kansas) that the Congressman posted here, the billionaire had adjusted gross income in 2010 of $62,855,038, taxable income of $39,814,784, and a federal income tax bill of $6,923,494. That makes his effective tax rate, as a percentage of AGI, just 11.06%, compared to an average effective rate in 2008 (the most recent year available) of 18.1% of AGI for the 400 taxpayers with the largest incomes, according to figures reported by the Internal Revenue Service. - See more at: http://huelskamp.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&id=3693#sthash.EqVA2cVt.dpuf
 

see4

Well-Known Member
lol Buffet has been fighting the IRS for years now over billions of dollars. Seems he could just pay up?
You are allowed to send in more than what is required yet none of these men have.
Please go on.
I'd be happy to pay more taxes if I knew the money went to infrastructure and getting people jobs and closing corporate loopholes. But it doesn't, it goes to Republicans filibusters and sequesters. And it goes to a 600 billion defense budget I didn't ask for. But I live with because I share responsibility with my fellow Americans and not cry about it because someone is in office I don't like.
 

beenthere

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You blame this on Obamacare rather than greedy insurance companies? Really? Man, you bought that bullshit hook line and sinker.

I have a bridge to sell you.
LOL You bet I do, who mandated the law that made the insurance companies drop their coverage, policies the customers wanted!

So did Obama lie to the American people??
 

ginwilly

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A credible source citing Affordable Healthcare Act as Obamacare? Are you serious?

Shit, Im dealing with another jtprin....

Ok, I give up. Youre a moron. Go to bed. I can't take this anymore. I might as well be banging my head against a wall.
What is it about the PPACA that you like? Is it that everyone will now be insured? no, that can't be it. Is it that it's reduced premiums an ave of 2500 per family? no, sorry. Is it that costs will go down because people will stop using the ER as a clinic? Well, this is a stickler. There is a 6k deductible for O'care plans. One way to meet the deductible is make a trip to the ER every day until you rack up the 6k without paying a dime. EMTALA requires this to be allowed. How does this cut costs? Also, how are people who couldn't afford insurance going to afford the deductible?

I have yet to meet anyone who supports this bill (that doesn't have a serious personal gains reason) that understands what this bill DOESN'T do. When I hear members say thanks to O'care their mother got extra chemo treatments I know they are chasing unicorns and taking one for the team.
 

see4

Well-Known Member
According to a letter Buffett sent to Rep. Tim Huelskamp (R-Kansas) that the Congressman posted here, the billionaire had adjusted gross income in 2010 of $62,855,038, taxable income of $39,814,784, and a federal income tax bill of $6,923,494. That makes his effective tax rate, as a percentage of AGI, just 11.06%, compared to an average effective rate in 2008 (the most recent year available) of 18.1% of AGI for the 400 taxpayers with the largest incomes, according to figures reported by the Internal Revenue Service. - See more at: http://huelskamp.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&id=3693#sthash.EqVA2cVt.dpuf
Noted. But that was not the fella I was referring to. We already know that billionaires from investments pay hardly any taxes. A Republican tax law. But that's besides the point. I was referring to someone else on that list who has tangible assets to account for, not just investments.

But, I will give you brownie points for actually going out and siting something.
 

ginwilly

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I'd be happy to pay more taxes if I knew the money went to infrastructure and getting people jobs and closing corporate loopholes. But it doesn't, it goes to Republicans filibusters and sequesters. And it goes to a 600 billion defense budget I didn't ask for. But I live with because I share responsibility with my fellow Americans and not cry about it because someone is in office I don't like.
You don't want to pay more in taxes because it goes to things you don't want but are willing to make others pay more for things they don't want. Do you see how others may think you are not a good person?
 

beenthere

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I'd be happy to pay more taxes if I knew the money went to infrastructure and getting people jobs and closing corporate loopholes. But it doesn't, it goes to Republicans filibusters and sequesters. And it goes to a 600 billion defense budget I didn't ask for. But I live with because I share responsibility with my fellow Americans and not cry about it because someone is in office I don't like.
Well that's quite the partisan response.
You never mentioned anything about the democrats filibusters, Solydra, welfare fraud, or entitlement spending which is double defense spending, gee!
 
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