The feds will "let" Washington and Colorado MJ laws go into effect

TheGoodGrower

TheGoodGrower

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This guy has no concept of the Constitution or the proper role of the federal govt. He's not letting the states do anything. The 10th Amendment already makes it clear the states can do what they want regarding an issue like this. All he's doing is saying "we wont be as thuggish with you as long as you still let us have our list of excuses to get involved and take peoples money in the process."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/29/eric-holder-marijuana-washington-colorado-doj_n_3837034.html
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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so much for the gloom and doom of the righties.

looks like they were wrong...AGAIN.

and OP, the 10th amendment doesn't mean shit in the face of the CSA, it is you who clearly has no understanding of how the constitution works.

any of you deluded righties want to claim ritt momney would have done the same?
 
kelly4

kelly4

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UncleBuck said:
who?

the guy that got 1% of the vote?

yeah, throwing your vote away in a critical swing state sure helped make this possible.
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Throw away? I voted for the best candidate.

You threw yours away...even though you voted for the winner.
 
TheGoodGrower

TheGoodGrower

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UncleBuck said:
so much for the gloom and doom of the righties.

it is you who clearly has no understanding of how the constitution works.

any of you deluded righties want to claim ritt momney would have done the same?
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First of all, what does Mitt Romney or being a 'righty' have to do with the Constitution? Because I call out Obama's goon, that means I some how support Mitt Romney? Man, expand your mind past the cnn/fox news paradigm. Second of all... The Constitution does not restrain the people, it restrains the government. It sets the parameters for which the government can operate. So show me where in there the feds have any authority to regulate or control cannabis or any other substance. At least when alcohol prohibition happened they understood to make it a federal crime the Constitution had to be amended. Now they just do what they want, Republicans and Democrats with no regard for it.

May I remind you with what the 10th Amendment says: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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TheGoodGrower said:
So show me where in there the feds have any authority to regulate or control cannabis or any other substance.
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the controlled substances act.

TheGoodGrower said:
* At least when alcohol prohibition happened they understood to make it a federal crime the Constitution had to be amended.
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not every federal law requires an amendment to be passed, sweetheart.

TheGoodGrower said:
May I remind you with what the 10th Amendment says: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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mayy i remind you of the supremacy clause and the CSA?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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kelly4 said:
Throw away? I voted for the best candidate.

You threw yours away...even though you voted for the winner.
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yeah, my vote only went to the guy whose administration is allowing full scale re-legalization in states that voted for it.

what a horrible waste of a vote. make sure to tell that to everyone in your state.
 
TheGoodGrower

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The supremacy clause only applies to Constitutional laws that conflict with state laws. For instance, if you read Article 1 Sec 8 where where it shows the list of things the govt can legislate on (standards of measurement, postal roads, going to war, maintaining a navy, etc...). So for instance, if the state of Montana wanted to define its own value for gold, or to deny or obstruct postal roads, then the feds could supercede the states.

To disagree with this is to ignore history. There is no way in hell the states would have come together to join a union that would have the power to over wright state laws. There is no way at all. I suggest you read the federalist papers and the words of James Madison. Just because the people allow the govt to get away with unconstitutional stuff, it doesn't make it constitutional.
 
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ChesusRice

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TheGoodGrower said:
The supremacy clause only applies to Constitutional laws that conflict with state laws. For instance, if you read Article 1 Sec 8 where where it shows the list of things the govt can legislate on (standards of measurement, postal roads, going to war, maintaining a navy, etc...). So for instance, if the state of Montana wanted to define its own value for gold, or to deny or obstruct postal roads, then the feds could supercede the states.

To disagree with this is to ignore history. There is no way in hell the states would have come together to join a union that would have the power to over wright state laws. There is no way at all. I suggest you read the federalist papers and the words of James Madison. Just because the people allow the govt to get away with unconstitutional stuff, it doesn't make it constitutional.
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Yeah and if Alabama wanted to reinstitute forced segregation and .......

Oh wait
States Rights suck
 
kelly4

kelly4

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UncleBuck said:
yeah, my vote only went to the guy whose administration is allowing full scale re-legalization in states that voted for it.

what a horrible waste of a vote. make sure to tell that to everyone in your state.
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My vote went to the guy who wanted to legalize everything. Keep thinking small, Betty.
 
kelly4

kelly4

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Don't even get me started on their different stances on the military. You voted for a warmonger, Killer.
 
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