I'm Ready- Blue OG, White Lavender, OG #18, and Sour Kush.

GreenDyl

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Yo, you are losing out on a lot of nutrient availability by not using a liquid nutrient, It's worth the 20 bucks to add it in honestly. I wouldn't use that though I'd use gh flora nova grow. Super worth it like you will get the best tasting buds I swear and it will add on your yeild. It's pretty much all organic and the nutrients are all chelated which makes them instantly available where as in your soil you are waiting for those nutrients to be broken down by the microbes.
 

polo the don

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Good morning Prosp. I was wondering,do those floros seem to help and do they add much more heat? Also,please let me know about that auto diesel yield and smoke cause I cracked that same freebie a couple weeks ago.
Polo.
 

prosperian

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Hey folks, welcome to my new home in the Grow Journal section.

Sunni kicked my thread out of the Newb section. Knew that would happen one day.

I showed up and all my stuff was packed and sitting at the door, adios. ;-) Still my girl, Sunni!


Yo, you are losing out on a lot of nutrient availability by not using a liquid nutrient, It's worth the 20 bucks to add it in honestly. I wouldn't use that though I'd use gh flora nova grow. Super worth it like you will get the best tasting buds I swear and it will add on your yeild. It's pretty much all organic and the nutrients are all chelated which makes them instantly available where as in your soil you are waiting for those nutrients to be broken down by the microbes.
There is such a thing as too hot of soil and it stresses the plants, burns tips, and causes growing issues. It's a balancing act. Providing what the plant's needs and not going over the top. My plants are on the edge of being too green and I'm always watching that line. Thanks for the suggestions and interest brother.



Good morning Prosp. I was wondering,do those floros seem to help and do they add much more heat? Also,please let me know about that auto diesel yield and smoke cause I cracked that same freebie a couple weeks ago.
Polo.
Hey polo, did you get that freebie Diesel from Attitude promo? This entire grow was freebies from Attitude, gotta love that.

Yes, I think the fluors under the screen help out a lot. Every leaf is like an engine. The plant diverts the power to where it needs it most. If I'm after big tasty buds, I want all the engine horsepower I can get which means leaving as many leaves on the plant as possible and providing adequate light.

Small cost, $10 per 24" fixture and because it's thinner down below I am getting good penetration from them. Yes they create a small amount of heat and will burn a leaf left on the bulb for 24 hours, but the fixtures only add about 1/2 a degree over your ambient temps. I think the long tubes do a better job of dissipating the heat over the compact fluoros.
 

hbbum

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They booted a bunch of us, mine got moved as well from general to the grow journals section.
 

prosperian

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You rule Pros. Why did it get moved? Did you request it?
The mods are doing some house cleaning. Sunni asked and told me she wanted to move me. That's cool, she didn't have to send me a PM.



Pros.....are you cooking the Roots soil? Things are lush bro.
Yeah, I guess you could call it a cook. I just use water to get things going thirty days in advance of using. I'm a big believer in making small changes and looking at the results. I thought, hmmm, super soil, sounds cool and started hanging around the guys in Organics last year.

But, I think some of the organic dudes are way over the top on recipes and frankly, I don't think it makes that much of a difference. If anything, the soil is too hot and causes other issues. That's why they recommend only adding to bottom 1/4 of bucket, scorches the roots.

The bagged Roots Organics has everything in there already and until I see a deficiency, I'm going to stay conservative on adding extra products into my soil. Think about it, how easy it is to grab a couple bag of pre-mixed organic soil and just add water.

That appeals to me.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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With results like yours who can argue? I am running the Revs soil mix. Man a lot sure goes into it. I like the cooking the Roots or similar soil idea. Thanks for the idea Pros. I am sold on your way.
 

hbbum

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Thats great Prosp.

I am due to go grab some soil, though I think I am going to buy some organic soil from a company called Agromin. They work with our local dump collecting organic materials and create a compost and soil using those materials. I like the idea, but I wish I could find out more details on the fertilizer they use, just says "Organic Crumble"
 

prosperian

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With results like yours who can argue? I am running the Revs soil mix. Man a lot sure goes into it. I like the cooking the Roots or similar soil idea. Thanks for the idea Pros. I am sold on your way.
I just have to wait and see. Flowering is when you really see if the nutes hold up. I'm planning on top dressing and I have some Jack's Citrus FeED 20-10-20 on stand-by.

I think having multiple transplants and replacing the soil with new is keeping things green. Now that I'm in flowering and cannot transplant, I pray the 5 gal buckets have enough nutes to make it the ten weeks.

Haven't seen a pic or report of your grow in a while. How are things going Gandalf?
 

prosperian

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Thats great Prosp.

I am due to go grab some soil, though I think I am going to buy some organic soil from a company called Agromin. They work with our local dump collecting organic materials and create a compost and soil using those materials. I like the idea, but I wish I could find out more details on the fertilizer they use, just says "Organic Crumble"
Yeah, I would want a list of ingredients too bro. I've been to plenty of dumps, and the word toxic comes to my mind before organic, ya know? I do agree with buying local when it's available. Soils are complex and I like to know exactly what in mine. Here is my list of ingredients in a bag of Roots Organics...

We begin with the highest quality coco fiber/Coir which is repeatedly washed for low EC, and composted. This soil is amended with organic ingredients including bat guano, earth worm castings, fish bone meal, feather meal, green sand, mycorrihzae, glacial rock dust, soybean meal, and humic acid.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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I just have to wait and see. Flowering is when you really see if the nutes hold up. I'm planning on top dressing and I have some Jack's Citrus FeED 20-10-20 on stand-by.

I think having multiple transplants and replacing the soil with new is keeping things green. Now that I'm in flowering and cannot transplant, I pray the 5 gal buckets have enough nutes to make it the ten weeks.

Haven't seen a pic or report of your grow in a while. How are things going Gandalf?

Things are going good. I am battling back from ph problems with FF Light Warrior. I treated it like it had some sort of dolomite or similar and was watering it with my RO water which had a lower ph. I am now adjusting the RO water to 6.4-6.5 with Earth Juice up/down crystals. I am going to transplant them into my TLO Mellow mix today or tomorrow. Thanks for asking.
 

prosperian

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Here is a the Blue OG


White Lavender


29" from soil surface to tip and 12" from screen to tip. Still stretching but the node spacing is looking good.
 

mycomaster

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Ladies lookin Good Pros. You have to be happy to see those flowers developing nice like that. Everybody looks real happy bro. Peace and Love.
 

prosperian

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Ladies lookin Good Pros. You have to be happy to see those flowers developing nice like that. Everybody looks real happy bro. Peace and Love.
Thanks for stopping by myco. Hope your weekend has been great. I ended up buying some of those nogoo containers. Worked great for my kief.



Lookin great my dude...I'm watching that blue og fo sho
I have a lot of eyeballs on the BlueOG. Wish I had more plants of this strain. I will keep you posted Cm.
 

prosperian

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I can't believe how much they have grown since you got the new light!
I'd say the Area-51 LED is living up to expectation in the veg, stretch, and early flower stage. Thx.

Here an update at 17 days flower. Left back corner clockwise...Blue OG, White Lavender, Sour Kush, Bag Seed.

 

Scotch089

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looking good brother P, have you determined what you think the yellowed tops are from?

You may dock your lights back another 6-8", that is a split image of what I had just saw with my '12 51's @ 12" and the difference of a few inches is night and day

We're providing some serious levels of PAR light, especially in Cab/closet/stealth grows- that PAR gets very concentrated,

Rosenthal stated that Water, Nutrients, Light, Temp/RH, and CO2 are the five limiting factors that we need to worry about. So even in a perfect system- right temps, nutes are good, but limited CO2- we may not be able to take advantage of all those extra photons flying around- without CO2. When the kids cant take all the light we're giving em... we get chlorosis. Look at it like your wpsf and HIDs when you're considering CO2- you are at the brink of that decision. Know'm'sayin?

I ended having to keep my 195w 51 at 14" (min) in veg at all times before the yellowing, and my 390w of 51's at 20" in early flower- but able to be brought down to 16" once they finish the transition and start bulking up

Just some food for thought, happy growing bruv!
 
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