Defoliation

[skunkd0c]

I literally have about 4 windows open at once, posting to different forums, doing emails, etc.

Here's a few of my tidbits. The can be found following the chatter and noise. https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/294633-superthrive-superjive-4.html

Would be nice if you were to update your photo catalog with something more current

 

[PJ Diaz]

Hey Kite, are you running bare bulbs or open hoods? I know that you achieve awesome co2 concentration duration as your room is mega sealed. I moved som stuff around and installed a 3.5 ton mini split in my flower room. Somewhere I am getting negative pressure. The panda film is getting sucked off the walls! All the ducting is taped sealed, expanding foam on manifolds, and soft rubber sealing where the light cords pass trough the wall.

It HAS to be the lights. I'm running 14 block busters cooled by two 8" inlines (7 hoods for each fan, two rows). Thinking about putting some painters tape around the glass and bottom of the hoods but will wait till I switch to HPS in a week (I just flipped). My co2 generator is almost constanty running.

Any hood sealing tricks that anyone has?

Foil tape. I've had the same foil tape on rows of daystars and silverstars for about 5 years. Occasionally it gets a little loose. You hear it as screeeeeech noise. When it happens, just run your finger along it and it seals it up for months.

If you turn off your air cool fan during lights off it will come loose more often. If you run 24.7 it almost never breaks the seal.

The heat will fuck with most anything you try to seal it with. Not all weather foil tape.. Like I said, if the seal breaks, all you have to do is put a little pressure on it and it's sealed again.

I've wondered if any new reflectors are out there that actually seal perfectly. Mine are all 10+ years old and the seals without foil tape are joke.

Good call. If you can't find the heavy, like 2.5" wide foil tape, get down to an A/C contractor or supplier. They'll either give you a piece or sell you a roll. It's used to seal central A/C ductwork seams.

UB

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[Situation420]

Liquid Light Come on, regardless of whether it works or not, that name is too much, they should have called it F. Or G perhaps. Seriously, what's in a name...

Yeah clearly the case... registered a month ago - about when the summer started for schoolkids - and already has twice the post I have. Let me guess, most of it is trolling.

Good observation since i posted that its summertime and schools out on a number of my posts. Welcome to the party

He has to threaten and hate Hank. Thats all he has to contribute around here.

Blow him some more why dont ya

I literally have about 4 windows open at once, posting to different forums, doing emails, etc.

Here's a few of my tidbits. The can be found following the chatter and noise. https://www.rollitup.org/nutrients/294633-superthrive-superjive-4.html

The internet is really all you have LMAOOO i knew it. UB n all those other people that try to flex their grow muscles and not take my input because im new here or disagree with what your saying For a guy thats only been growing for 3 years my plants seem to be doing just as good as your 30 year experience plants.

Why can't you guys just let me post in peace?

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

Good observation since i posted that its summertime and schools out on a number of my posts. Welcome to the party

Why can't you guys just let me post in peace?

600 post in less than 2 months...nice job. Most of which are just spreading the parrot act of misinformation or just down right trolling. Maybe share a pic or two of your uber healthy plants among your ramblings of wisdom?
Here I will help you out. One of 420s uber healthy plants:

For a guy that been growing for 3 years huh? Maybe if you would follow the advice of those with real world experience rather than the advice of a bunch of P happy parrots your plants would look better...

 

[Uncle Ben]

Throws a dagger.....

Blow him some more why dont ya

.....and then has the audacity to make this statement.

Why can't you guys just let me post in peace?

Oh, the irony.

Hombre, if you can't take the heat and then you best get out of the kitchen.

It is what it is.

 

[Uncle Ben]

For a guy that been growing for 3 years huh? Maybe if you would follow the advice of those with real world experience rather than the advice of a bunch of P happy parrots your plants would look better...

Yep, that is some serious leaf scorch. And that kind of scorch, when induced by plant foods, carries over into the smokeability, the quality, of the bud. No worries, he'll "flush" and atone for his sins hehe!

UB

 

[HeartlandHank]

600 post in less than 2 months...nice job. Most of which are just spreading the parrot act of misinformation or just down right trolling. Maybe share a pic or two of your uber healthy plants among your ramblings of wisdom?
Here I will help you out. One of 420s uber healthy plants:

For a guy that been growing for 3 years huh? Maybe if you would follow the advice of those with real world experience rather than the advice of a bunch of P happy parrots your plants would look better...

I gotta know... is that one of your 2+gram per watt grows? I call bullshit.

I'm not hating on you Sit... but you should come clean with those yield numbers... If I remember right you said you were yielding something like 2.3grams per flowering watt? I know you have co2 supp and all... but come on.. you need some really healthy plants to hit those numbers.

Come clean, this place is great to join and make personal gains... When I started on here with a previous account I was harvesting about 7-8 oz per 600 hps... sharing and learning on here... I'm hitting almost 18 per 600 with my 8 wk skunk cross. No co2 supp, no vertical, just flat aircooled $30 600hps bulbs in reflectors that are 10+ yrs old.

I'm not saying 18 per is all that great. But, it's good enough for me. and it's no bullshit, not inflated. QP plants is what I go for.

I'm branching outside Dyna Gro for a little bit right now.
I'm going back to H&G, which I used some years ago.
So far it's going well. I'm seeing more smaller sites, more stretch... not the huge buds I got from DG... but I think yields will be similar if not the same.
I am supplementing Coco AB with Earth Juice micros. From what I can tell.. these 3 bottles (A,B,EJ) I'm getting a fairly good balance of feed. I'm not getting that dark green growth I got with DG though.

So, 3 years? Have you changed setups a bit? Or have you been running the same setup all 3 yrs?
When I moved indoors a while back I fitted an armoire as a grow cab. It held a 400 w hps and never dropped below 90 degrees... I now use that armoire to dry my crops in... and it barely fits most crops.. haha. I've been through many upgrades.

 

[Nizza]

Good call. If you can't find the heavy, like 2.5" wide foil tape, get down to an A/C contractor or supplier. They'll either give you a piece or sell you a roll. It's used to seal central A/C ductwork seams.

UB

Its called mastic tape, venture makes it.
look into mastic seal too, its a brush on temperature /moisture resistant compound that paints on like spackling almost and provides a rubberized seal. If i were to seal a glass to a hood though i'd use the tape because its cleaner and you get more strength from it

be prepared to pay ~30-50$ each for the bucket of mastic or the tape roll

 

[Nizza]

ben i use just dyna gro in coco medium, i think you've said you use soil, so heres my question, what is your max nute dosage with the dyna gro and what one do you use? i think i hear u use veg because it is still important to keep healthy , green leaves all throughout flowering. I understand not to defoliate but i usually take off the from the base the bottom 2" of my plants to allow extra airflow, because my plants only get ~ 1 1/4 ft tall and theyre very bushy clones
theyre all clones and i just wanted you opinion on this, and for the record, i totally agree that its important to keep the leaves healthy and on there! If your worried about plants getting more light towards the bottom, train your plants, or top them

 

[HeartlandHank]

^ For haze (nute sensitives) I never do more than 2ml/gal
For hungry plants, never more than 4ml/gal

I would say a good maintenance feed would be 2.5ml/gal....

Early in flower maybe feed 3ml/gal until you get it nice and green with vigorous growth... then move down to about 2 ml/gal every feed.

Maybe do feed, feed, feed, water. You don't need to feed every time.

I do DG in coco. I believe homebrewer does some kind of soiless, peat mix, i think. While homebrewer and others swear by Foliage Pro 9-3-6 in flower, I have had better results with the 7-9-5 Grow... However, so far I have only tried 9-3-6 on haze plants. So far, I have not done real well with haze plants and DG. Homebrewer however has done very well with them. It's different for every grower (I would think)... The specific haze plant I used the 9-3-6 with is kind of a touchy plant. I'm not blaming DG for the haze mishaps... it was the grower (me).

The great thing abot DG is that you really need NOTHING else. It's a great 1 bottle plan.

You can see my results with DG and coco in my grow journals (in my sig).
I ran with DG for maybe 18 months straight. Great stuff.

 

[Nizza]

strain will be feminized big bud

 

[HeartlandHank]

Big Bud was one of my first plants to work with. I kept a mother of her in a closet and put them outdoors in May.
I remember her being the kind of plant that wants more feed.

At one time I had a White Widow mother along with the Big Bud and the Big Bud always wanted 2x the feed that the WW did.

BB and WW. Ah, back before we had shisckle bobble berry kush extreme x blah blah blah. haha.

I made a Big Bud x Bubble Berry cross. If I remember right it was a copy of a Sagamartha cross. That plant was great outdoor fun.

Who's Fem Big Bud is it? Mr Nice reworked it and calls it critical mass... I tried to pull a mother out of a pack 1-2 years ago with little success. She must have been super prone to pythium.. I had her growing right along 10 seedling of another variety. All 10 CM flopped over while all 10 of the others went on to produce great plants. Like before, not blaming Mr Nice, pythium comes in by pest or not clean conditions (me).

I was gifted the BB clone back then. But, I'm pretty sure what I got was the BB.

 

[Mad Hamish]

Big Bud was one of my first plants to work with. I kept a mother of her in a closet and put them outdoors in May.
I remember her being the kind of plant that wants more feed.

At one time I had a White Widow mother along with the Big Bud and the Big Bud always wanted 2x the feed that the WW did.

BB and WW. Ah, back before we had shisckle bobble berry kush extreme x blah blah blah. haha.

I made a Big Bud x Bubble Berry cross. If I remember right it was a copy of a Sagamartha cross. That plant was great outdoor fun.

Who's Fem Big Bud is it? Mr Nice reworked it and calls it critical mass... I tried to pull a mother out of a pack 1-2 years ago with little success. She must have been super prone to pythium.. I had her growing right along 10 seedling of another variety. All 10 CM flopped over while all 10 of the others went on to produce great plants. Like before, not blaming Mr Nice, pythium comes in by pest or not clean conditions (me).

I was gifted the BB clone back then. But, I'm pretty sure what I got was the BB.

I had very good luck with Critical Mass again, bummed to hear it didn't work for you. Mine came out phenomenal, much like the oldschool BB but with a creamy widow-esque flavour added to it. I like it quite oldschool and this just took me back to the late 90's. I really enjoyed both growing and smoking it. ROCK HARD bud too. H.U.G.E main colas it really was jaw-dropping stuff. Plants topped into 4 main colas, yielded like mad things, outdoors I got between 900 grams and 1.3 kilos per plant, DRY.

 

[Situation420]

600 post in less than 2 months...nice job. Most of which are just spreading the parrot act of misinformation or just down right trolling. Maybe share a pic or two of your uber healthy plants among your ramblings of wisdom?
Here I will help you out. One of 420s uber healthy plants:

For a guy that been growing for 3 years huh? Maybe if you would follow the advice of those with real world experience rather than the advice of a bunch of P happy parrots your plants would look better...

I like how your posting a pic and sayin i think its healthy lmao, far from it, but im not scared to post pics of my plants when they get f'd up. Also your looking at day 39 of flowering, If your so good at growing, you know the pistils swell up over the next 3-4 weeks dramatically so to judge yield off that is actually a testament to your inexperience and desire just to be a dickweed. I wonder what your plants would look like if your power went out and your AC didnt kick on for 2 days because it surged and blew the circuit. I doubt if your plants were left in 100+ heat for 2 days. Most peoples would of died, I saved mine and still am getting a huge harvest. Here's the same plants 2 weeks later, o man so scraggly and shitty....lol

 

[Situation420]

I gotta know... is that one of your 2+gram per watt grows? I call bullshit.

I'm not hating on you Sit... but you should come clean with those yield numbers... If I remember right you said you were yielding something like 2.3grams per flowering watt? I know you have co2 supp and all... but come on.. you need some really healthy plants to hit those numbers.

Come clean, this place is great to join and make personal gains... When I started on here with a previous account I was harvesting about 7-8 oz per 600 hps... sharing and learning on here... I'm hitting almost 18 per 600 with my 8 wk skunk cross. No co2 supp, no vertical, just flat aircooled $30 600hps bulbs in reflectors that are 10+ yrs old.

I'm not saying 18 per is all that great. But, it's good enough for me. and it's no bullshit, not inflated. QP plants is what I go for.

I'm branching outside Dyna Gro for a little bit right now.
I'm going back to H&G, which I used some years ago.
So far it's going well. I'm seeing more smaller sites, more stretch... not the huge buds I got from DG... but I think yields will be similar if not the same.
I am supplementing Coco AB with Earth Juice micros. From what I can tell.. these 3 bottles (A,B,EJ) I'm getting a fairly good balance of feed. I'm not getting that dark green growth I got with DG though.

So, 3 years? Have you changed setups a bit? Or have you been running the same setup all 3 yrs?
When I moved indoors a while back I fitted an armoire as a grow cab. It held a 400 w hps and never dropped below 90 degrees... I now use that armoire to dry my crops in... and it barely fits most crops.. haha. I've been through many upgrades.

In that 3 years Iv'e been through 4 flowering setups, 2 veg setups, 2 cloning setups, 3 germinating/seedling processes, and 4 different drying/curing processes. 3 different companies nutrient products, 2 different hydro techniques, and 50 different strains of plants. I am not claiming 2.3 grams per watt. I posted the only pics I had of my plants that were destroyed by heat, everyone can keep calling it nute burn all they want, it just shows me that they dont know wtf they're talking about. I use half strength AN nutes how the f can i nute burn plants running at 1100-1300 ppm? Anyway 2.3 grams per watt is ridiculous, I get anywhere from 1.2-1.4 grams per watt i never claimed 2.3, that is unheard of. I gave the range 1900-2200 grams a harvest off of 1500 watts of light, do the math thats not 2.3.

 

[skunkd0c]

I had very good luck with Critical Mass again, bummed to hear it didn't work for you. Mine came out phenomenal, much like the oldschool BB but with a creamy widow-esque flavour added to it. I like it quite oldschool and this just took me back to the late 90's. I really enjoyed both growing and smoking it. ROCK HARD bud too. H.U.G.E main colas it really was jaw-dropping stuff. Plants topped into 4 main colas, yielded like mad things, outdoors I got between 900 grams and 1.3 kilos per plant, DRY.

wasn't my fav smoke but BB has amazing vigour big colas and huge yield in 7 weeks
this one is a BB X NL

peace

 

[Situation420]

Thats how u do it, can u harvest in 49 days? or do u wait a little more?

 

[Mad Hamish]

Jeez Doc not only do you grow some great bud but your pics are friggin excellent. Always makes me feel like a bong lol... I've only got a phone camera and seeing as I lost my nice one to bongwater (don't ask) all I can capture is a vague reefer-ish blur.

And how do you deal with HID? I always get these stripes across the pic, and intense yellowing unless I move the plant somewhere.

 

[skunkd0c]

yep 7 weeks is fine it taste sweeter at 7 weeks at 9 weeks its pine overload very piney lol not really my cuppa tea to be honest, i am not keen on smoking it
i passed it on to another grower who does very large SOG runs he is happy with its performance

peace

 

[Situation420]

if you can't take the heat and then you best get out of the kitchen.

Proof you are an old man who says that anymore? lol